11:00 carry, anyone do this.

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I have been experimenting with different carry positions. My normal carry is IWB at about 3:00 to 3:30, but sometimes it still bulges more than I like. I have found that at 11:00 to 11:30 that gun disappears. It seems that this would be a better carry position when in a car since the seat belt may get in the way. I just have to be careful when sitting and standing up.

I was just wondering if anyone else carries at 11:00, and if there any reason this would not be a good carry position.
 
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There are two well-known disadvantages to crossdraw: The draw is telegraphed to an assailant earlier in the stroke, and it is easier for an assailant to take one's gun away. However, for vehicular carry in particular, it makes for both easy carry and easy draw. It also can make for a very fast draw in most any other position, and access by the "weak" hand is much easier than with strong-side carry.
 
I see your point in the telegraphing, but I think that going for a strong side draw also telegraphs. One advantage I have found is that the weak hand can clear the cover garment leaving the strong hand to just draw the weapon. When using a strong side draw the strong hand has to do both. The main problem I can see is the possible sweeping of the gun, but with practice I don't see this as a problem.

I can also seem to get a better grip from the IWB crossdraw than IWB strong side draw, but that may just be me.
 
Suggest you try some force-on-force training with a dummy gun so you have a realistic plan for weapon retention.
 
OKFC05, That is great advice. I am an Unarmed Self Defense and Firearms Instructor for my Department. We practice weapon retention techniques.
 
Carry it on the same side as your strong hand. It's called "appendix carry" and is a bit faster than carrying behind the hip.
 
I have been trying the "appendix" position also. It seems comfortable, but I need a holster with a cant. It prints on the 1:00 position.
 
I carry either a Glock 23 or sometimes a M64 2" in the appendix position at about 1:00. If the holster has zero (straight drop) cant it seems best for me and pretty comfortable. I use a High Noon Mr. Softy IWB. Good luck!
 
I find the only place I can truly conceal is my 11:00 position. If I carry anywhere else I might as well be open carrying because of the amount my weapon prints. As mentioned, practice is the key to cross draw, but that is true of any position as well.
 
if i'm up and moving around i like a hig strong hand, but in a car or other seated positions i find crossdraw much preferable
 
Check out my post on the Tucker Cover-up above. I carry my 325 Ti at 1100 and it is comfortable seated or standing. I was surprised and pleased that it does not bother the hernia repair "boot" under my hide in that position as well! I carry my 66 2.5" in a Shotist AIWB too, but the 325 is more comforting.
Mike B.
 
Anyone other than me carry IWB at about 1-2oclock position? My smaller guns completely dissapear and I can still draw even with my seatbelt on in the car. I use this with untucked T shirts which is what I wear 99% of the time, also works with any other untucked shirt. My gun just seesm to fit in the hollow of my hip just to the right of my belly, I do have just a hint of a spare tire going on....I have found this to be the most comfortable and fastest draw carry position for me.
 
I carry some at 11:00 but I'm a lefty so it's strong side for me.

I agree about the clip IWB and canting.
 
I have been experimenting with different carry positions. My normal carry is IWB at about 3:00 to 3:30, but sometimes it still bulges more than I like. I have found that at 11:00 to 11:30 that gun disappears. It seems that this would be a better carry position when in a car since the seat belt may get in the way. I just have to be careful when sitting and standing up.

I was just wondering if anyone else carries at 11:00, and if there any reason this would not be a good carry position.

Sir, there was a Web video circulating a while back that showed a guy accidentally shooting himself in a particularly tender spot while sticking his pistol in the front of his waistband. IIRC, the guy was a thug rather than a trained gun handler, but still, that possibility seems like a good reason to carry the gun elsewhere.

JMHO, FWIW.

Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.

Ron H.
 
I'll carry at 11:00-11:30 when driving and leave it there if I cannot reposition and keep covert.
 
Carried a M1903 Colt in a Pager Pal (cross draw-1100) for quite some time. Good concealment and I could draw fine. I've gone over to pocket carry now-only problem is that I have to keep my right pocket clear of everything but the pistol.
 
J.I.T.

I often carry a 296 cross draw at 11 on the clock, using a Hume JIT. Works well in sweatshirt wx, or under a unbuttoned jacket.

Far and away my favorite driving carry position.
 
I have carried at 11:00 since the 70's (1911"s and mdl 60) and yes it takes practice but it will become second nature over time.
 
Normally when carrying concealed I use a GW Davis or Milt Sparks Summer Special in the 3:30 to 4:00 position [with 12:00 being my belly button].

However, some times when working covert in a Bar, as a robbery decoy, or in a crowd, I moved the holster to the 1:00 position, as it is easier to protect, and access the gun when fighting/grappling with suspects, at close quarters.

I have done this with 1911's, 4" Mod 29's, and Glock 17's.
 
When hunting I carry a 4" S&W 44 Mag at the 11:00 position in a De Santis Cross draw holster.

This holster has a fairly radical rake and is very comfortable walking in steep country, stitting in a vehicle, ATV, Snowmobile, horse etc.

In bad weather I wear a coat that unbuttons or unzips from the bottom, so the revolver is protected, but is still easily accessed.

For "combat" I prefer the 1:00 to the 11:00.
 
Sir, there was a Web video circulating a while back that showed a guy accidentally shooting himself in a particularly tender spot while sticking his pistol in the front of his waistband. IIRC, the guy was a thug rather than a trained gun handler, but still, that possibility seems like a good reason to carry the gun elsewhere.

JMHO, FWIW.

Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.

Ron H.


The problem with this line of thinking is your belief that the problem is in the location, rather than the shooter. Any time you sweep yourself, including during the strong side draw, you are eligible for a wound. Does this mean you advocate off-body carry only?

Obviously, the answer to the question is to BE CAREFUL. Slowly holster your weapon.

There is no need to keep your eyes up while holstering because either there is a threat or there is not. If there is a threat, don't holster the gun. If there is no threat, then do so.

It's really quite simple, but everyone has to try and make it complicated. Blaming this or that for shooter negligence does not solve the problem.
 

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