127gr +P+ Winchester Ranger T in M&P 9?

[Kanewpadle]

Put them in your gun and don't worry about it. I have also shot several hundred rounds of +P+ through an M&P and a Glock. No problems.

The recoil is minutely more than a +P load and I never noticed an increase in muzzle flash.

Several years ago the Win +P+ was the best one could find. It proved itself on the street and it still has that reputation today. I could buy a box of 50 for $30.00. Wish I could still find it at that price.

These days I carry Federal HST 124. But I wouldn't hesitate to carry +P+.

 

[OKFC05]

I have a lot of the Ranger T 127 +P+, so I want to use it.

Ah, the truth comes out....!
Well then, as my Scottish ancestor reportedly said, "If your mind's made up, then why do ye be asking?. Do as ye please an devil take ye!"

 

[fallhunter]

Ah, the truth comes out....!
Well then, as my Scottish ancestor reportedly said, "If your mind's made up, then why do ye be asking?. Do as ye please an devil take ye!"

If it just bad, I would buy different ammo.

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[berudd]

I would prefer the performance of +P+, and why not? Parts can be replaced over time, as can the whole gun, for that matter. I probably only shoot 200 rounds a year, at most out of a given firearm, and only a few of them are my defence rounds. I have a lot of the Ranger T 127 +P+, so I want to use it.

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Why not? For me it is slower follow up shots due to higher recoil. I've never shot +P+ but I have shot 124gr +P and the increase in muzzle rise is noticeably more that 147 grain loads I have shot. If you only shooting 200 rounds a year out of it then can you be sure you've trained enough with it to be ready for the recoil? It's your gun so shoot what you want, I'm just sharing my perspective.

 

[Steve912]

The gun is designed for 30K PSI so, how much is to much?

It better not be designed "for 30K PSI"--that's below SAAMI specs for standard pressure 9x19.

 

[fallhunter]

Why not? For me it is slower follow up shots due to higher recoil. I've never shot +P+ but I have shot 124gr +P and the increase in muzzle rise is noticeably more that 147 grain loads I have shot. If you only shooting 200 rounds a year out of it then can you be sure you've trained enough with it to be ready for the recoil? It's your gun so shoot what you want, I'm just sharing my perspective.

I don't notice much in the way of a recoil difference. I also really like the Ranger T 124gr +P and the Speer Gold Dot 124gr +P.

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[Rastoff]

It better not be designed "for 30K PSI"--that's below SAAMI specs for standard pressure 9x19.

I stand corrected; 35K psi.

 

[Harkrader]

From personal experience shooting +P and hotter loads in Sigs, Berettas, S&Ws, Glocks and others, the guns will always "take" them. The issue is ONLY long-term wear. For most modern guns that usually means thousands or tens of thousand of rounds.

I have a Sig 228, one of the first available in the U.S., that has fired far and away more +P, NATO and +P+ ammo than all others combined. It feels "loose" but is as accurate and reliable as the day I got it. My 226 of similar heritage does not feel as loose, and is also as good as the day I got it.

My Beretta 92F and FS, again among the first ones available in the U.S., have had almost exclusively NATO and +P ammo (and European ammo that feels like +P+) through their first 20 years with narry a malf and are as accurate and reliable as day one.

If their long-term use has been affected, it won't matter to me, at my age. They were purchased as tools. Tools wear out. If one does, buy a new one.

 

[Harkrader]

While I'm on a roll:
I question the need for +P+ ammo for self-defense. Modern 9mm ammo as made by Hornady, Cor Bon, Sig, etc., performs at very high levels without the drama of +P loads. I've used and like the Winchester 127 +P+ T ammo but don't think I really need it any more.

You might consider whether you really do.
sdh

 

[AlHunt]

I have a lot of the Ranger T 127 +P+, so I want to use it.

Unassailable logic.

 

[Rastoff]

Unassailable logic.

It is neither logic nor unassailable. It just is.

 

[Mark IV]

Actually, it IS logical. The OP has a bunch of presumably perfectly good ammo, and would like to use it, rather than blow a bunch of money on other ammo. That's about as logical as logical gets.