Kayback
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The original post has a stat where over 31% of people hit by the .22 didn't stop.
That's almost a third of the people shot with it were still able to press their attack. This is not a good thing.
It is not about "killing", it is about stopping the illegal attack on your or another's person.
BUT
You don't get to say when the fight is over, that is up to the guy you are shooting. There are only a couple of ways to stop an attack and most of those involve doing enough damage to actually stop them. Physical damage which means they are incapable of attacking. It isn't like paintball where a well placed shot means they call themselves out, you may need to remove their ability to perform tasks. This involves damage to their Central Nervous system or causing lack of oxygen to the brain, either by exsanguination or by interrupting the blood flow by destroying their heart.
It isn't nice, but then fighting for you life isn't about nice, it is about survival. You better be prepared to KILL the attacker in order to stop his illegal attack, otherwise why are you using Lethal Force? If the situation does not warrant the badguy dead, you'd better not be shooting him with ANY gun.
A best case scenario is everyone goes home alive, but if things have gotten to the point of pulling the trigger, you'd better be meaning to kill your attacker. Forget about the whitewash - I was defending myself, not trying to kill him saga. You are using Lethal Force in many cases when you just BRANDISH the gun, actually dropping the hammer on someone means you are trying to kill them because it is the only way in which you can stop the attack.
If the gunfire does result in the attack stopping, without anyone dying, bonus. But you'd better be correct in employing lethal force in the first place and you will be accountable for it.
Saying something can bite you both ways. You don't want someone to use a previous statement for evidence of pre-meditation, but you also don't want someone using a statement about not wanting to kill someone as evidence of the situation not warranting lethal force.
As for the .22, whenever I take new shooters to the range the first thing I do is shoot something with the .22 to show "all guns can damage". I cheat by using Stingers and a sealed, full 500ml plastic bottle, but one second there is a plastic bottle, the next there is a light rain. It has always been very useful for demonstrating the damage even a .22 can do.
That's almost a third of the people shot with it were still able to press their attack. This is not a good thing.
It is not about "killing", it is about stopping the illegal attack on your or another's person.
BUT
You don't get to say when the fight is over, that is up to the guy you are shooting. There are only a couple of ways to stop an attack and most of those involve doing enough damage to actually stop them. Physical damage which means they are incapable of attacking. It isn't like paintball where a well placed shot means they call themselves out, you may need to remove their ability to perform tasks. This involves damage to their Central Nervous system or causing lack of oxygen to the brain, either by exsanguination or by interrupting the blood flow by destroying their heart.
It isn't nice, but then fighting for you life isn't about nice, it is about survival. You better be prepared to KILL the attacker in order to stop his illegal attack, otherwise why are you using Lethal Force? If the situation does not warrant the badguy dead, you'd better not be shooting him with ANY gun.
A best case scenario is everyone goes home alive, but if things have gotten to the point of pulling the trigger, you'd better be meaning to kill your attacker. Forget about the whitewash - I was defending myself, not trying to kill him saga. You are using Lethal Force in many cases when you just BRANDISH the gun, actually dropping the hammer on someone means you are trying to kill them because it is the only way in which you can stop the attack.
If the gunfire does result in the attack stopping, without anyone dying, bonus. But you'd better be correct in employing lethal force in the first place and you will be accountable for it.
Saying something can bite you both ways. You don't want someone to use a previous statement for evidence of pre-meditation, but you also don't want someone using a statement about not wanting to kill someone as evidence of the situation not warranting lethal force.
As for the .22, whenever I take new shooters to the range the first thing I do is shoot something with the .22 to show "all guns can damage". I cheat by using Stingers and a sealed, full 500ml plastic bottle, but one second there is a plastic bottle, the next there is a light rain. It has always been very useful for demonstrating the damage even a .22 can do.
. The forth shot finally did him in. This was an ideal situation, which wouldn't be the case in a home invasion where the other end is able to shoot back. I know a cow isn't a human, but it still taught her a lot about the right tool for the job. I was sent out to do the same three days ago (with my .44mag rifle), but he was allready gone. I hate that part of being a rancher.
