15-22 pistol threads?

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I've tried to search for threads about the pistol version with no luck. Is there a pic thread? I just got a used one of the pistols that I have prettied up and want to share!

Joe
 
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There really hasn't been much written about them here. I have fun with mine and it gets noticed at the range. My wife said it is "hot".:)

Hobie
 

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Here's mine. I just did all the magpul stuff this week to match my MOE full size.

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Hobie
The engraving COLOR on your shorty... That looks 'factory'
is it?
if not, do tell!
 
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I like it. It looks like an aged factory white in the picture.
 
Thanks, but it is a subdued gold in actuality. It's a unique look and so far has been durable.

Hobie
 
I've tried to search for threads about the pistol version with no luck. Is there a pic thread? I just got a used one of the pistols that I have prettied up and want to share!

Joe

There hasn't been a lot of 15-22 pistol activity on the board. Only a few posts here and there.

I picked mine up last year, when I heard that they were no longer being listed in the S&W catalog.

I love mine. My only beef is that I cannot put a vertical fore-grip on it (without paying a $200 tax).

Next up is a trying to find a tactical leg holster for it. Seen a few one-off's and prototypes on the internet, but nothing readily available.

Post pics if you got'em.
 
I did a bit of reading and I'm a bit confused. Did the ATF change the rule recently as in since 2009?

Here's the full reg from the ATF:

ATF Rule on Adding a Vertical Fore Grip to a Handgun



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U.S. Department of Justice

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco,
Firearms and Explosives


Washington, DC 20226


Adding a Vertical Fore Grip to a Handgun

"Handgun" is defined under Federal law to mean, in part, a firearm which has a short stock and is designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand…. Gun Control Act of 1968, 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(29).

Under an implementing regulation of the National Firearms Act (NFA), 27 C.F.R. § 479.11, "pistol" is defined as a weapon originally designed, made, and intended to fire a projectile (bullet) from one or more barrels when held in one hand, and having (a) a chamber(s) as an integral part(s) of, or permanently aligned with, the bore(s); and (b) a short stock designed to be gripped by one hand and at an angle to and extending below the line of the bore(s).

The NFA further defines the term "any other weapon" (AOW) as any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive, a pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell, weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more, less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire. Such term shall not include a pistol or revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition. 26 U.S.C. § 5845(e).

ATF has long held that by installing a vertical fore grip on a handgun, the handgun is no longer designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand. Therefore, if individuals install a vertical fore grip on a handgun, they are "making" a firearm requiring registration with ATF's NFA Branch. Making an unregistered "AOW" is punishable by a fine and 10 years' imprisonment. Additionally, possession of an unregistered "AOW" is also punishable by fine and 10 years' imprisonment.

To lawfully add a vertical fore grip to a handgun, a person must make an appropriate application on ATF Form 1, "Application to Make and Register a Firearm." The applicant must submit the completed form, along with a fingerprint card bearing the applicant's fingerprints; a photograph; and $200.00. The application will be reviewed by the NFA Branch. If the applicant is not prohibited from possessing a firearm under Federal, State, or local law, and possession of an "AOW" is not prohibited in the applicant's State of residence, the form will be approved. Only then may the person add a vertical fore grip to the designated handgun.

A person may also send the handgun to a person licensed to manufacture NFA weapons. The manufacturer will install the fore grip on the firearm and register the firearm on an ATF Form 2. The manufacturer can then transfer the firearm back to the individual on an ATF Form 4, which results in a $5.00 transfer tax. If the manufacturer is out of State, the NFA Branch will need a clarification letter submitted with the ATF Form 4 so that the NFA Branch Examiner will know the circumstances of the transfer. Questions can be directed to the NFA Branch or the Firearms Technology Branch.
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This is from 2009. Be careful my friends. This appears to be a gray area.

Hobie
 
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I've actually seen in two places specifically naming the magpul afg being allowed. They have a list of letters from the ATF that apply to ar style pistols.

Joe
 
I've actually seen in two places specifically naming the magpul afg being allowed. They have a list of letters from the ATF that apply to ar style pistols.

Joe

+1
Obviously you can only claim it correct if you have a letter from the ATF, but the couple of scanned letters I have seen indicate that the Angled Fore Grip (AFG) is okay. And a Vertical Fore Grip (VFG) requires the AOW registration.
 
Smith & Wesson stopped production of the pistol version about a year ago. The appear on gunbroker every now and then. I got mine used a couple of months ago. Due to limited production, I hope that it becomes a collectors item someday.
 
i can understand why they stopped making them,,, there's not much use for them
 
I picked up mine after falling in love with my 15-22 and learning that they were no longer going to be offered.

That said, I have to agree with Nathantc. They are a blast to shoot, but don't really serve any niche. They are too big for average pistol shooting and not accurate enough for rifle fun. But it is a lot of fun to put in a 25 round mag and go to town on the steel plates on our tactical range. :D
 
If you are looking for a pistol like the M&P 15-22P, check out the Chiappa m four 22.
 
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