178 Years Ago Today (Texas History)

[williamlayton]

There is always an opposing view.
Hero's made from folks who disobeyed orders and, really did nothing to help the effort.
They were hero's by default and propaganda, really. Same with Goliad.

Prepare the rack and eggs and tomato's.
Blessings

 

[Snakeshift]

There is always an opposing view.
Hero's made from folks who disobeyed orders and, really did nothing to help the effort.
They were hero's by default and propaganda, really. Same with Goliad.

Prepare the rack and eggs and tomato's.
Blessings

As my East Texas mother says: "Them's fightin' words."

 

[GKC]

There is always an opposing view.
Hero's made from folks who disobeyed orders and, really did nothing to help the effort.
They were hero's by default and propaganda, really. Same with Goliad.

Prepare the rack and eggs and tomato's.
Blessings

Do you hold any other opposing views? Like, are you one of the 400 (estimated) remaining members of the Flat Earth Society?

As my East Texas mother says: "Them's fightin' words."

YEP!

 

[Cyrano]

They need to do their homework a little better. They have a H. Deringer, Phila. rifle on display. The name on the barrel is clearly visible, however the card describes it as a DeRRinger (caps mine). Sets my teeth on edge. On two occasions, I told the Alamo employee standing guard over the exhibit about this, and it's still not corrected.

 

[Old TexMex]

Good work, youngfeller!
Write that book, the observers view of all the major sieges in history.

 

[Old TexMex]

They need to do their homework a little better. They have a H. Deringer, Phila. rifle on display. The name on the barrel is clearly visible, however the card describes it as a DeRRinger (caps mine). Sets my teeth on edge. On two occasions, I told the Alamo employee standing guard over the exhibit about this, and it's still not corrected.

My last couple visits to The Shrine I was dismayed at the men not removing their headgear, and the chatter and unruly kids.
When visiting as a kid, I remember well how we were "warned to be cautious" as it was a grave site and reverence was demanded.
Last time there I had some Aussie mates, and they really enjoyed ( as did I) the speaker who gave a recount of the battle.

 

[GKC]

My last couple visits to The Shrine I was dismayed at the men not removing their headgear, and the chatter and unruly kids.
When visiting as a kid, I remember well how we were "warned to be cautious" as it was a grave site and reverence was demanded.

It's a general decline of society...people just don't have respect or manners anymore. When I was a kid, if I acted up in church or a restaurant, or anywhere really, I knew I'd get a smack (and I don't mean a kiss.) Nowadays parents just ignore the kids and let them do as they please.

 

[williamlayton]

Well, fewer eggs than anticipated.
My views of history come from a stoic study which gives no place to the emotions as they are not to be found in reality.
Matter of fact it is emotions that start wars but rarely win them.
Folks that come to terms with the ploddingness of the conflict are most often the winners.
See--Sam and the Running Scrape as a prime example .
In reality the greatest example of stoicism that i have ever witnessed was the war on Cuba fought by Kennedy---His stoicism and perserverance prevented / won a war that had the rest of the hot heads all it tither and war paint.

Fighting words will generally get your butt whipped.
Stay the course--see the big picture, it will serve you well when in the trenches.
Do a little study on William Barrett Travis and you might be suprised.
Blessings

 

[williamlayton]

I must add, with some amount of tounge-in-cheek, that WB Travis was probably one of the other lives George Patton lived but would just as soon not remember as was George Custer.
Blessings

 

[wbraswell]

I have savored this thread. I too, have deep Texas roots. My Great, great, great grandfather, Jesse Daniel, came to Texas from Tennessee, and served as a Justice of the Peace in the Republic of Texas, and later as County Judge of Bowie Co. His son, my ancestor, Jesse H. Daniel served in the 2nd Texas Cav. of the Confederacy. Many of their decendants are still in the New Boston area. We aren't "deep in the heart", but someone has to defend the border. You can't be too careful about those Arkansans, they can be slick sometimes.

 

[armenius]

Thanks for the very interesting article about The Alamo.Although I am not a Texan I have always held it in some esteem.Every chance I have had I always planned a day at The Alamo on various trips to Texas.It is one of my favorite shrines.Both Bonham and Travis were from South Carolina and indeed were cousins.Like so many of my states citizens ,by accusation,they had a reputation of being somewhat rowdy,for lack of a better word.Check Bohnam on Wikepedia for a good laugh.He may have been the inspiration of Preston Brooks! And I also give a salute to one of Texas' greatest citizens, one of my all time heroes,Major Audie Murphy USA.

 

[the ringo kid]

Good work, youngfeller!
Write that book, the observers view of all the major sieges in history.

Hopefully some day soon. I still have to get the rest of my Ducks in a row--and hopefully starting in March. )

 

[the ringo kid]

Thanks for the very interesting article about The Alamo.Although I am not a Texan I have always held it in some esteem.Every chance I have had I always planned a day at The Alamo on various trips to Texas.It is one of my favorite shrines.Both Bonham and Travis were from South Carolina and indeed were cousins.Like so many of my states citizens ,by accusation,they had a reputation of being somewhat rowdy,for lack of a better word.Check Bohnam on Wikepedia for a good laugh.He may have been the inspiration of Preston Brooks! And I also give a salute to one of Texas' greatest citizens, one of my all time heroes,Major Audie Murphy USA.

I thought about going through the entire article and including things compared, that were in both the Disney Davy Crockett episode as well as Duke's, The Alamo, but figured it would ruin it. I wish I could find my notes about the de la Pena Papers, that stuff was just as fascinating.

The Audie Murphy Alamo visit photo, is one I bought having found it strictly by accident. Its a one-of-a-kind local News Press photo. No others exist--except possibly as 2nd generation copies in maybe a few other newspapers who may have picked up the story of the Major's visit. Trouble is, unless someone gets very lucky to stumble into that story shared elsewhere? I cant say for sure if there are any 2nd gen pics made--or how many.

Audie Murphy, General Lee, Nathan Hale, Davy Crockett, Colonel Clemmons etc, are my heroes.

 

[Old TexMex]

I have savored this thread. I too, have deep Texas roots....Many of their decendants are still in the New Boston area. We aren't "deep in the heart", but someone has to defend the border. You can't be too careful about those Arkansans, they can be slick sometimes.

Indeed you're right, them fellers are some that carries them Arkansas toothpicks!

 

[.455_Hunter]

Thanks to everybody for posting!

Col. Travis is an uncle in my family tree, and the story of the Alamo is a cherished part of our heritage.