19-4 Wow, maybe too good!

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Have you ever spot purchased a gun only to get it home and be amazed? Have you ever said to yourself; "What am I missing? This thing looks too good to be true."

Well, last Thursday while poking around at a neighborhood garage sale I got a hint that they also has a couple of guns they wanted to sell and asked to see them. The first thing they brought out was a S&W Blue Box that looked almost new. The seller told me it was his brother-in-law's revolver. He was a retired LE but his duty weapon was always a semi-auto, probably Glocks and that this was never his duty weapon. I asked a few more questions but he told me the brother-in-law had passed away and he didn't know any more about the gun. I took it out of the box, took a glance, saw that it was a 19-4 and asked him how much he wanted. When he told me I tried to cover my surprise, pulled the money out of my wallet, gave it to him, replaced the revolver back in the box and came home.

When I got it home I put it under the lights and started giving it a thorough examination. I was dumbfounded. It has either been re-plated or this is the most pristine Model 19 I have ever seen. It's just that immaculate.

The box it came in may or may not be original. The seller said that, AFAHK, it was the original. The end sticker with the serial number is missing. The sticker on the other end of the box, however is there and accurately describes the revolver and all of its features. All of the documentation was in the box, including the warranty card, as well as the unopened tools. If this is an assembled bunch of stuff pieces together, someone did a really good job of it.

The front of the cylinder has three burn rings, on every other chamber. There is a hint of carbon around the forcing cone but no signs of cutting at all. Fired three times at the factory and never fired again or re-plated and purposefully only fired three times? I don't know and probably no way to ever know for sure.

There is a "N" on the face of the cylinder but here is where my doubts begin. This, to me, looks more like hard chrome than Nickel. I have owned Nickel revolvers in the past and I remember them to have a bit more of a yellow cast to the finish than this gun has. It is a bright, shiny, "silvery" finish. It certainly could be a pure factory Nickel finish but I don't know how to tell for sure.

Anyway, here are some photos I took. I only have a crappy camera so they are not very good but maybe you can get the idea as to how good this thing looks. Original or re-plate? Doesn't matter. It will be a part of my life for as long as I have life. :)

Bob
 

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A couple more photos.

Bob
 

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It looks right to me.....but, what if it's a refinish? You still got yourself a very nice Model 19. Enjoy it.

BTW, my first new S&W that I bought was a 19-4 nickel with a 4 inch barrel and the 3 T's.
 
It looks correct to me. If you are having second thoughts I will be glad to give you what you paid, pay for shipping, and relieve you of your anxieties.

Scoundrel and Ne'er-Do-Well in Training
 
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Looks correct to me also, although the pictures are a little blurry. I think you found an original 19-4 in pristine condition from what I can see. Congratulations are in order.
 
It's kind of like the '53 Corvette that has been sitting on blocks in someone's garage forever and ever.

The stuff of myth and legend. But, I believe there are more NIB pistols stashed in closets than Corvettes hiding out in garages.

That is a beautiful gun refinished or not. I'd say you have good karma.
 
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Very nice 19. The only thing I see to raise a question is the box. I think it should have the grey box with the blue print/border on it. That wouldn't have mattered much anyway to me. Awesome find for a garage sale, congrats.
 
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Beautiful revolver. I have one on layaway at a Pawn Shop that is not nearly so pristine. Good find!
 
From the photos, I see no reason to doubt that it is a factory test-fired only model 19.

Did you mention the seller had another gun? Where are those photos? ;)
 
The other gun was a single barrel shotgun. It was in good condition but I wasn't interested in it so I didn't even ask.

Oh yeah, I took the 19-4 to the range yesterday and put 2 boxes of +p 38 Spl rounds through it. Spooky accurate and locks up tighter than any revolver I've ever owned.

Bob
 
Very nice 19. The only thing I see to raise a question is the box. I think it should have the grey box with the blue print/border on it. That wouldn't have mattered much anyway to me. Awesome find for a garage sale, congrats.

Yes, I thought about that and is part of why I question the box. The one panel that is still on the box says: "MOD 19 357 4IN SQRRWOTTTH" and has the number 0194044038 on it which is totally correct for this gun.

The other end sticker that would normally have the serial number is missing.

Bob
 
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Voyager28.

Dude I just HATE you;):D

As much as I hate to say it. That guy is almost too nice to shoot.

Oh hell, go ahead as shoot that one. That's what it was made for.
 
Unpinned barrel, counterbored cylinder, "speedloader cutout" grips. Right at the change. Is the ser #: 3 alpha, 4 numeric or (example) 234K xxx ? Joe
 
The lack of a gray box and the red insert in the front sight are the two things I noticed as somewhat unusual. However, S&W is famous for not always doing the "usual" so I don't think either factor really says "not original".

I recommend you take the stocks off ASAP , clean and wax the grip frame and side plates. The varnish on S&W stocks can damage the finish over time.

Beautiful gun!!
 
Recessed cylinder late production Nickel 19-4 ,
The High K Serial , lack of a barrel set pin, small Left side trademark and speed loader cut target grips all point to early 80's production just prior to the change to the 19-5.

Shoot and enjoy it !
BTW +P .38 is totally fine but avoid 357 loads under 158 grains.
 
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