Capt. F.
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Got a 4" Pre - 29 5 screw that would love to dance with that lady.
1926 Chopped Target .44spl
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rburg
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The last 3rd model target I saw I had to buy. It cost me $3500 and I felt lucky to be able to buy it.
Okay, here's something for perspective. The '96' George_in_SD was referring to is the total number of 1926 Target models ever produced. That kinda changes my thoughts on what that two inches of missing barrel does to the overall value.
Mark
Mark
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To answer my original question....
Assuming- knowledgeable seller and buyer, that $3,500 was "fair market value" at the time, how much would you have paid if barrel on that one had been cut like mine?
I've also sent in to see if S&WHF has any records on it. They are a valuable resource, I'll keep my fingers crossed and let y'all know if they find anything.
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Found one in similar condition in Victoria, TX last week for $500.00!
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...and you BOUGHT it, and are getting ready to post the pictures - right?!?
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Steve that's a way cool gun! Thanks for sharing it.
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S&WsRsweet
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Thanks for posting that awesome gun . I don't know what tonsay it is worth and tne only way to find out truly would be to sell to an actual buyer and if it was mine ( which I couldn't afford ) but if it was mine money couldn't buy it short of a life threatening situation for someone I love and I don love many folks that much so my suggestion is do not even think about its value in money think of it value in enjoyment of owning which I have a couple of guns I that way about and the joy of owning is just priceless .i hope you can get to that point with that firearm.
keith44spl
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Steve,
As you know, I've bob'd a bunch of em.
Quality of the work is the deciding factor in value.
Collectors, as we all know, like them un-touched by the rough bare hands of us 'shooters'.
And then there is the group of us that are users of said arms.
Those pieces modified to suit our own tastes and needs.
Your 3rd Model, I think falls in to the very cool shooter class.
(I think I would have configured the front sight bases a little differently)
But, overall, what with the good matching re-blue on the barrel, ivory stocks, best caliber and popular barrel length.
(I cut a 95%+ RM to 4 1/2 not too many years ago.)
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This re-blued parts gun sold several years ago for two grand w/out the ivory....
Today, I would get twenty five hundred to 3 grand for it, or just keep it and enjoy.
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As you know, I've bob'd a bunch of em.
Quality of the work is the deciding factor in value.
Collectors, as we all know, like them un-touched by the rough bare hands of us 'shooters'.
And then there is the group of us that are users of said arms.
Those pieces modified to suit our own tastes and needs.
Your 3rd Model, I think falls in to the very cool shooter class.
(I think I would have configured the front sight bases a little differently)
But, overall, what with the good matching re-blue on the barrel, ivory stocks, best caliber and popular barrel length.
(I cut a 95%+ RM to 4 1/2 not too many years ago.)
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**
This re-blued parts gun sold several years ago for two grand w/out the ivory....
Today, I would get twenty five hundred to 3 grand for it, or just keep it and enjoy.
.
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Dave, was that one originally a target model?
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keith44spl
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Sorry to say it was not an original 5" target............
I had installed a 5" 3rd model barrel on an Outdoorsman, chambered a 27 cylinder to 44 Special
so to have the recessed cartridge heads and had the whole thing polished to match and blued.
It shot like a laser....
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rburg
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I wouldn't have bought it. Not because its not a great gun, because it is, but because I have a postwar 3rd that is already shortened from 6 1/2 (that I bought maybe 15 years ago for $1400) and because I have an original target in that configuration. Worse, I also have a 4" non target that is refinished. At some point in time you just figure maybe you have enough. And had I bought your gun, I'd have only been buying it for a profit motive, not to have the gun to use.
So read Dave Keith's perspective. He has them to use. Not a bad idea at all. So had I been buying it to move along to another scoundrel, I would have wanted my profit to be maximized. If I'm going to take a risk, I would want for it to be worthwhile. Also consider that over the last year or two I've dumped 2 other 4" 44s. One a first model and the other just a refinished prewar (blue). I got about $3000 for the pair, or equivalent.
I'd guess the value to be in the $2000 range to me.
rburg
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Something else to keep in mind is that Dave has his own machine shop. He's never said that he does all his own work, but it wouldn't surprise me
a bit if he does. Its not like him to put $1000 worth of his work into a gun to make it worth less to him. He's got a lot better sense than to do that.
Also keep in mind that you can get lucky some times. I once bought a kind of well used W&K 4" at a small back country gun show. It was just nice. So I went to the next big show and showed it to my then table partner. Not offering it up for sale, mind you. But only to make him jealous. He looked at it for a few minutes and said "how much". So I repeated the idea that I kind of liked it and wanted to keep it. He knew it was all sales BS and then walked away after I told him I couldn't let it go for less than $1100. I did that to scare him off and increase his pain and suffering. I went back to gunshowing and admiring my new to me gun. He returned and put the $1100 in front of me, asking for his new gun!
In all honesty, or as much as gun traders can muster, I wanted to keep that gun for a while. Had I realized his weakness, I'd have asked more. So I went for a walk with my new wealth. Came back fully expecting to see him sitting there admiring his new treasure. The gun behind him had it! So I asked the impolite question, "how little did you get for it?" He laughed at me and said "$1650". The other guy stole it realizing that offering him less than a 50% profit was a waste of time. Oh, and it wasn't a target model.
I'd coveted a 6 1/2 ever since I saw a picture here of JLLs target gun. I think we've lost him now because he doesn't post these days. And be careful of when you modify a gun in short supply. There are needy people out and about who really covet them.
And if you're into posting pictures, at least show us a pix of the grip frame. Not the side but show us the grooves or the lack of them!
OP
Don't have a pic of that, but it is 6 grooves.
Thanks for the responses. All a part of my "continuing education"!
OP
I think the unusual "bottom ramp" may have been made extra long to cover up remainder of patent dates on top of barrel. (my only theory, it does look funky) I know King made bases high enough without having to add another to it. Maybe a case of gunsmith using what's on hand, lol!
keith44spl
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Yes Sir,
I've saw a lot of rifle sight ramps installed on handgun barrels,
it was a look that sported some attractive eye appeal.......
It also adds to the time period of the work.
I've got one in the works now that needs a front sight height adjustment.
May have to ponder it a spell longer after seeing yours...Gives me another idee or two.
All My Best,
Dave
I have no real idea on price, but I really like it. THANX for sharing.
Eddie Southgate
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Steve,
As you know, I've bob'd a bunch of em.
Quality of the work is the deciding factor in value.
Collectors, as we all know, like them un-touched by the rough bare hands of us 'shooters'.
And then there is the group of us that are users of said arms.
Those pieces modified to suit our own tastes and needs.
Your 3rd Model, I think falls in to the very cool shooter class.
(I think I would have configured the front sight bases a little differently)
But, overall, what with the good matching re-blue on the barrel, ivory stocks, best caliber and popular barrel length.
(I cut a 95%+ RM to 4 1/2 not too many years ago.)
I'm kinda leaning toward the two to twenty five hundred range on yours. So, maybe a loss a grand from the original condition value, mabee.
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This re-blued parts gun sold several years ago for two grand w/out the ivory....
Today, I would get twenty five hundred to 3 grand for it, or just keep it and enjoy.
.
Dave,
I'd have just kept it an enjoyed it . That just suits me plumb down to the ground . Is there anything you can't make ? You are gettin to be my new hero !
Eddie
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Very Fun thread to read.
My thoughts are that the OP's gun it is worth more than this 38/44 Outdoorsman that has been cut back. I paid a little over a grand for it and would not take less than $2K for it...if I was of a mind to sell it, which I am not.
My thoughts are that the OP's gun it is worth more than this 38/44 Outdoorsman that has been cut back. I paid a little over a grand for it and would not take less than $2K for it...if I was of a mind to sell it, which I am not.
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