.22 LR vs. .22 WMR

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And no, I don’t mean velocity, bullets, or accuracy. I mean why did we come up with such a different pair of .22’s and keep them so different??? I have read about the .22 WRF that is like a shorter non-magnum version of the .22 WMR and other than a Wikipedia note about not being as accurate as the LR version this is the only bad news I have heard about it. Or for that matter why didn’t we just make a heeled bullet version of the LR like a long rifle magnum variant that you could still shoot all the shorts, longs, and long rifle ammo in the same chamber??? And the final mind boggler to me is the .222 vs. .224 diameter bullets in the LR vs. the magnum… If we could have made this any worse I don’t know how… Is there some reasonable explanation for why we had to make them so different and stick with it this whole time???
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Wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too early to be asking a question like that !!!!!!!!!!
I'm sure that later on in the day someone will chime in with the reason why this is so.
 
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I suspect they didn't just lengthen the .22 LR because they couldn't get enough extra performance for people to think it worthwhile.

I don't know why there isn't a .22 mag "short."
 
Is there some reasonable explanation for why we had to make them so different and stick with it this whole time???

I don't know about reasonable, but I was around when the new rimfires came out in the high-velocity race of the 1960s, and the .22 magnum is the only successful new rimfire of the 20th century. The .22 WRF dates back to the 19th century when the number of rimfire cartridges was large and varied.
They picked the .22 WRF diameter as something they were already tooled up for that would for certain NOT fit into a .22 LR chamber. Having someone put a high pressure .22 into one of the millions of old (up to 100 years) .22 LR chambers and blow themselves up was a major worry.

Other solutions like the bottleneck 5mm magnum died.

In my .22 magnum rifle, the .22 WMR is good for varmints and breaking turkey necks, while the WRF with its slower 45gr lead bullet takes squirrels out of 150ft trees without blowing off major body parts. The difference between the accuracy of .22 WMR and .22WRF is academic to hunting. IMHO, the .22WRF is one of the best rimfire hunting cartridges ever made.

The idea of having both .22 LR and .22 WMR in the same gun was sort of an afterthought, and accuracy does suffer for the one that does not fit the barrel, but again, for coon-hunter accuracy, not so important.
There were several cheap imitations of the Ruger single six convertible with 2 cylinders, and the Ruger itself was pretty cheap in 1965. I have a fixed-sight convertible that I only shoot with .22WRF, because the .22 LR and .22 WMR do not shoot to point of aim.

The idea at the time was to have a rimfire .22 of about .22 Hornet centerfire power. Since the .22 Magnum is still around, I guess enough people liked it. Keep in mind that it was to be a hunting round and not a precision target round and the result makes a lot of sense. My .22 WMR rifle has a barrel cut specifically for .22 magnum, and the acuracy is exceptional--especially for a rifle I bought used for $40 in 1965, with JC Higgins scope and sling.
 
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.... and the .22 magnum is the only successful new rimfire of the 20th century. ....

Although developed in the 21st Century - The 17 HMR (4.5mm) has a pretty good following and should be around for quite a while.
 
I suspect they didn't just lengthen the .22 LR because they couldn't get enough extra performance for people to think it worthwhile.

I don't know why there isn't a .22 mag "short."

To me, the CCI Stinger is nearly there. It just seems like we could stretch it some more and use the same bullet and make a .22 Ultra/Extra/Super/Whatever Long Rifle...

I just think we are beyond the worry now of blowing up guns. The .45 Colt and .45-70 should be proof of that. No, we will never get rid of stupid, but I don't like being held back because of it. You load a Garret .45-70 in a Trap Door and Darwin just took you and is welcome to you.

Come to think of it, what happened to the Hornady M2??? The HMR is alive and well, but what happened to its little brother .17???
 
I'm surprised Garret, and other companies doing the same, haven't been sued out of existence yet. People will do stupid things if it's at all possible. And then we'll reward them for it. Unfortunately that's just how it is.
 

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