.22 Luger

[dant]

I used to get a lot of them brought in for repair when I owned a gun shop (in the 70s, while they were in production). The problems stemmed from poor quality parts and manufacturing, rather than under powered ammo. In fact, the most frequent problems were broken firing pins and broken toggle arms - more powerful ammo would have broken those parts even faster. They looked neat, but were completely unreliable. Cheap cast parts, poor tolerances and a lack of quality control were the culprits. I worked on one my brother had for a long time in an attempt to get it to work reliably, and finally gave up, the basic components were just too bad, and pot metal castings don't respond well to machining. They had a poor reputation when they were new, age hasn't improved them. Too bad, they would have sold like hot cakes if they had been decently made and reliable guns.

same here we went through LOTS of them, and they mainly got the nickname "jamamatic"...they came in either alloy or steel construction if I recall correctly,,,the alloy ones looked like '****' in little or no time with any amount of handling.................

 

[JcMack]

I recall when you could buy a real Luger for $65 from the pages of Outdoor Life. A friend of mine bought an MP40 for under $100 from a magazine ad. Slugged barrel. Then bought a barrel from another ad. Butt that was about `1960.

 

[RPNelson]

Would still like to have one but would never spend 250.00 for something thats not reliable and going to last. If I could find one in good shape for 100.00 I would consider it.

 

[Cpo1944]

I had a Erma m1 carbine in.22lr.
it looked pretty good and if memory serves me didn`t shoot bad at all. But that was 42 years ago.
I don`t remember if I sold or traded it away,but anyway it`s long gone.

 

[ColbyBruce]

Dana Safety Supply in Greensboro, NC will have one in stock shortly. I know because I loaded the box into the vehicle, read the inventory list taped to the top. "Luger .22" is all it said. There were a few S&W 19's and a 36 on the list. Check with them tomorrow.

 

[RPNelson]

Dana Supply Alanta

Hi, I checked and as far as handguns go they are only showing Glocks. Maybe it was a special order...

 

[RPNelson]

Grip

The ERMA and Stoeger were different. This is my Stoeger.

Looks like the one I had but the grip was different...mine was a checkered grip, best way to explain it.

 

[RPNelson]

Hi, I checked and as far as handguns go they are only showing Glocks. Maybe it was a special order...

will check again...

 

[desi2358]

I thought the Erma Lugers were banned from import in '68 (didn't make the point total needed).

Stoeger then imported the Erma parts, but not the the receiver, after '68. The new receiver being made in the USA to get around the import problem and the Stoeger pistols were assembled (made) in the USA.

Stoeger Corp could legally put 'Luger' on the pistol as they owned the rights to the name in the US since the 1920's when they were the sole importer here.
..and then again I may be all wrong!

The Stoeger Luger was a bit different than the ERMA. No parts will interchange and the Stoeger was a better quality pistol overall. I can remember both being available new in the 70's and I think into the early 80's. The ERMA's were big enough to qualify under the "point" system for import, many had a thumbrest "target" grip which added import points. Have worked on both, a broken Stoeger can usually be fixed, a broken ERMA is best made into a wall hanger.
Stoeger does own the rights to use the "Luger" name as they copyrighted it @ 1920 which is why none of the copies that have appeared could put the Luger name on their guns. Even mauser (an original producer of Lugers) had to market theirs as the "Parabellum" pistol back in the 70's.

 

[ColbyBruce]

will check again...

Hi, that gun was going to the Greensboro, NC store, not the Buford/Sugar Hill store.

 

[2152hq]

The Stoeger Luger was a bit different than the ERMA. No parts will interchange and the Stoeger was a better quality pistol overall. I can remember both being available new in the 70's and I think into the early 80's. The ERMA's were big enough to qualify under the "point" system for import, many had a thumbrest "target" grip which added import points. Have worked on both, a broken Stoeger can usually be fixed, a broken ERMA is best made into a wall hanger.
Stoeger does own the rights to use the "Luger" name as they copyrighted it @ 1920 which is why none of the copies that have appeared could put the Luger name on their guns. Even mauser (an original producer of Lugers) had to market theirs as the "Parabellum" pistol back in the 70's.

Thanks for the correct info & untangeling the two!

 

[bobf]

The Stoeger Luger was a bit different than the ERMA. No parts will interchange and the Stoeger was a better quality pistol overall. I can remember both being available new in the 70's and I think into the early 80's. The ERMA's were big enough to qualify under the "point" system for import, many had a thumbrest "target" grip which added import points. Have worked on both, a broken Stoeger can usually be fixed, a broken ERMA is best made into a wall hanger.
Stoeger does own the rights to use the "Luger" name as they copyrighted it @ 1920 which is why none of the copies that have appeared could put the Luger name on their guns. Even mauser (an original producer of Lugers) had to market theirs as the "Parabellum" pistol back in the 70's.

Thanks for the info I appreciate all of you sharing your knowledge.
Bob

 

[A10]

I've got one sittin' in the safe....somebody gave it to dad in the 70s, and he gave it to me. I've fired it several times, it would jam or misfire once in a while. It looks pretty good, though, and I have a nice holster with it. No real attachment to it, though....