.22 Shortage

[guns and more]

There was a thoughtful post on YouTube and the poster blamed 5 groups.
1. Manufacturers filling backorders first. The high demand left customers orders unfilled, and now, they come first.
2. Resellers. Guys who wait at big box stores, buy every bit they can to re-sell on GB or others at price X 5.
3. Hoarders. Guys who have a stash of 50,000 rounds, more than they can shoot, but with the shortage, they buy more, "just because." The poster said he knew a guy with 200,000 rounds, but always bought more if he could.
4. Preppers. Never know when the SHTF. Buy when you can. I always found this amusing, because no one can carry 100,000 rounds when they bug out.
5. LGS. Gun stores getting their supplies from the wholesaler, then selling it on GB for X 5 price. None on the shelves.
6. I'd add myself. If I found some on the shelf, after enduring the drought, I'd buy it. Natural reaction. If I knew I could go tomorrow, and buy it for the same price as today, I wouldn't need to "stock up."

 

[sweeede]

When my supplies get low, I start using my pellet guns. .177 and .22 cal. It satisfies my desire to target practice.

S

 

[stmry]

People are hoarding it and buying by the thousands because they expect the world to go to **** any day now, Walking Dead style, and when that happens, they will be kings with 1,000,000 rounds of ammo that can be traded for other goods. It's quite annoying.

The problem is, what we found annoying 10-15 years ago is "all too real" today.

 

[Smitty357]

I think people are buying it up now while its cheaper. Kind of like if people who bout it 4 years ago bought it cheaper. And we are still shooting all that ammo we bought 4+ years ago without the issue of paying for high price ammo. Also, i believe this country has finally learned their lesson and they refuse to be caught with their pants down next time. Because next time (yes there will be a next time), most of them will have plenty of ammo to get them through rough times.

Call it hoarding all u want. IMO, its called buying smart and shooting cheap while everyone else complains of high prices and lack of ammo.

 

[NWPhotoguy]

2. Resellers. Guys who wait at big box stores, buy every bit they can to re-sell on GB or others at price X 5.
6. I'd add myself. If I found some on the shelf, after enduring the drought, I'd buy it. Natural reaction. If I knew I could go tomorrow, and buy it for the same price as today, I wouldn't need to "stock up."

I think these two are the biggest reasons.

That, and the ammo companies not wanting to invest in more 22 production capacity because the profit margins are higher on 9/40/45/223/308/etc. So if they invest in increasing production, they invest in those calibers first.

 

[vette2002]

What .22LR shortage? Come to Maine. I went to three different dealers today in Western Maine and their shelves were full of .22LR. Maybe Walmart is all out state wide but the private dealers seem to have plenty here.

 

[10 Spot Terminator]

One contributing factor, the one that really gets my goat is the scalpers . .22 lr has become one of the newest form of comodities out there for those looking to double or even triple their money . I have seen this in action myself where a local retailer will get in a shipment and have a high or no limit on the amount one individual can purchase , the local gun shop owners and or scalpers are there when the store opens and will buy up all the ammo they can and then jack up the prices . Gun Broker has a bevy of .22 ammo for sale at insane prices listed by such people as these . As long as people are willing to pay these prices they will just add fuel to the fire . I think I need to go take a handful of tums now . Talking about this gives me an upset stomach .

10 Spot

 

[smokindog]

My take on the list:

1. THAT is what you are supposed to do

2 and 5. Blaming the wrong people. Blame those who BUY it. No market means no motivation.

3 and 4. Sounds like some other things going on. Show me you "NEED" that carry permit. Why do you "NEED" more than an X round magazine. It's NO ONE's business what I NEED or buy or store ELSEWHERE for my future use.

6. It must be all you!

There was a thoughtful post on YouTube and the poster blamed 5 groups.
1. Manufacturers filling backorders first. The high demand left customers orders unfilled, and now, they come first.
2. Resellers. Guys who wait at big box stores, buy every bit they can to re-sell on GB or others at price X 5.
3. Hoarders. Guys who have a stash of 50,000 rounds, more than they can shoot, but with the shortage, they buy more, "just because." The poster said he knew a guy with 200,000 rounds, but always bought more if he could.
4. Preppers. Never know when the SHTF. Buy when you can. I always found this amusing, because no one can carry 100,000 rounds when they bug out.
5. LGS. Gun stores getting their supplies from the wholesaler, then selling it on GB for X 5 price. None on the shelves.
6. I'd add myself. If I found some on the shelf, after enduring the drought, I'd buy it. Natural reaction. If I knew I could go tomorrow, and buy it for the same price as today, I wouldn't need to "stock up."

 

[Ronbo]

Gander Mountain this Friday 1400 round buckets of Remington golden bullet limit one for $70

 

[NWPhotoguy]

Gander Mountain this Friday 1400 round buckets of Remington golden bullet limit one for $70

I don't love the Rem 22 ammo. But id buy one of those buckets in a heartbeat if I had the chance.

 

[arjay]

Ive bought several of the 525 packs of golden bullets.Good plinking ammo.Had a dud Friday and I was shocked! Fewer misfires than the win 555s in my guns.

 

[ladyT]

What .22LR shortage? Come to Maine. I went to three different dealers today in Western Maine and their shelves were full of .22LR. Maybe Walmart is all out state wide but the private dealers seem to have plenty here.

Well to hear tell from others the reason your dealers have it on the shelf is because they have been buying everything Walmart got.

IN the real world I can find all of the 22lr I could ever want @ 25 cents a round but that same ammo @ 8 cents a round or less is non-existent. As it stands today the shortage is permanent.

 

[beerbelly]

I have "gobs" of .22 ammo. I purchased it before all the poop happened a few years ago (and when it was on sale). I don`t call it hoarding-I call it smart shopping. Same as buying a bunch of coffee when it`s on sale. Or chicken. Or hamburger. Or sugar. Or light bulbs. You get my drift. One of my personality flaws-I like to save money and not run out of stuff. Always been like this and I`m too old to change now.
beerbelly

 

[moosedog]

I went to a local show Friday and several guys who are not regular dealers had ton's of Remington Golden and Winchester economy packs for sale. I asked where they got theirs from and they both mumbled something like, "I know a few people" or "I got connections".
Yeah right. Connections at the local big chain stores where they get a tip when the shipment is coming in and they are there like a clock.
I told them nicely where they can put their ammo.

 

[LVSteve]

I told them nicely where they can put their ammo.

I'm betting the Sun does not shine there.

 

[chaparrito]

I went to a local show Friday and several guys who are not regular dealers had ton's of Remington Golden and Winchester economy packs for sale. I asked where they got theirs from and they both mumbled something like, "I know a few people" or "I got connections".
Yeah right. Connections at the local big chain stores where they get a tip when the shipment is coming in and they are there like a clock.
I told them nicely where they can put their ammo.

I'm with you. There is a difference between scalping and normal price rise in response to supply/demand. At the last show I attended in Feb., EVERY single seller of ammo was, in my opinion, scalping. Absurdly high prices. Note that I don't need any ammo. I reload all I shoot and keep a few bricks of .22 around that I bought probably 3 years ago, for skunks and raccoons. I wasn't buying, just pricing.
I happened to be at that particular show late on the last day, and the ammo sellers were FULLY stocked. They took a lot of product home with them. When their next rent check is due or their kid's orthodontist turns their teeth over for collection they may begin to wonder how wise it was to underestimate the intelligence of their customer base.

 

[drinva]

I heard from a family member who works in a sporting goods retail chain, that the chain caught their own "suppliers?" cutting their delivery/delivered orders way down and keeping the ammo for their own to sell for profit.

Meaning.....these middle men, were taking ammo that the store ordered and was suppose to get unconditionally from the makers, then cutting the delivery to the store to the nubs every delivery.

The store caught on, and fixed the issue.....I suspect this happens A LOT.

I'm NOT a fan of this scalping ****, I understand both sides, but I DO NOT agree with people that rape others just for profits, ESPECIALLY when it comes to a subject this sensitive. Be free to make fair profits, but keep it morally correct, dont drop to the pond scum level to do it.

DR

 

[smokindog]

And I heard that we have aliens captured at Roswell.

So is the number I call 1-800-2BE-FAIR? or 1-800 BEM-ORAL? OR what?

Sorry but this is just ridiculous. Should I also consult you when selling stock?

Be free to make fair profits, but keep it morally correct, dont drop to the pond scum level to do it.

DR

 

[Fackler Rebel]

Long time ago I was a Boy Scout and was raised on a farm. I have always kept 1000 rounds of so of .22LR on hand cause we shot it a lot on the farm and hunting. Over the last 10 years or so, I have increased that number to 3000. Being 64 and at the rate I shoot, I'll have ammo on hand when I catch the train to heaven. As for the SHTF mode, like the other person wrote, try humping just 3000 rounds of .22LR and lets see how far you get and how many days you can do that.

Reb

 

[drinva]

And I heard that we have aliens captured at Roswell.

So is the number I call 1-800-2BE-FAIR? or 1-800 BEM-ORAL? OR what?

Sorry but this is just ridiculous. Should I also consult you when selling stock?

Hey....maybe you should!

DR