.22 wmr snub

[gsn]

Interested in getting others opinion about this intriguing caliber/gun; sure its loud, yes it has a blast but man is it easy to shoot/followup, and up close and personal this gun just may be a solid contender for cc for the -average- civilian.

Sure wish that Smith could duplicate Rugers lcr trigger.

In fact if one is able to get over the Ruger thing (Smiths trigger is beyond horrendous) the only negative is cost BUT the dollars are really offset by the shoot ability of the combo, again for (the average) civilian cc-to become really-really good doesn't require an awful lot of cash, ditto remaining competent...

Put one in the noggin of an attacker (which certainly should be very easily done at close range) bent on doing you harm and I am confident is saying its all over, except for the court proceedings that is.

 

[tops]

As a curious and nosey old man I wonder how much difference in velocity between a .22 LR and a .22 Mag. when using a 2 in. barrel. Larry

 

[TomkinsSP]

As a curious and nosey old man I wonder how much difference in velocity between a .22 LR and a .22 Mag. when using a 2 in. barrel. Larry

Someone (Brassfetcher maybe? I will see if I can find it and edit) compared several loads in both using LCRs, a .22LR round placed first, then most of the WMRs, then a mix. But not much difference out of 1.875 inches.

That said I have a 351c waiting in a Bianchi shoulder rig with a pair of Beez speedloaders. Right now I can synchronize the trembling in my right arm and get good shots on target with my M40. Someday that all steel beauty is just going to be too heavy.

I like the 351c platform more than I like the LCR, just personal preference. If I liked the LCR more I would take the extra round (v351c) or two (vLCR) in preference to the WMR (which might have better bullet selection (GDHPs, Vmax, FMJ) depending again on preferences).

The LCR has what I belive to be the best new out of box trigger in a revolver. You can make the J frame trigger much smoother by filling the lockwork space with 3 in 1 oil, and then dry firing it 2 or 3 thousand times.( I use resilliant plastic wall anchors in my rimfires as snap caps.) Then I open 'em up and clean them thouroghly.

 

[gsn]

tops, the specifics I am not certain of hopefully someone can post the data; what I do know is that I have no concerns about carry this gun for self defense and yes I would also carry the lr-just don't have one

Lightweight, Compact Ruger LCR 22 Magnum Pocket Revolver

 

[eveled]

I love the .22 magnum, from a rifle.

If I were to carry a rimfire especially a snub nose, it would be a LR. Not a WMR, not worth the extra noise IMHO, plus you gain capacity.

The reality is you'd be better off with a .38 special with the most anemic loads you can find.

 

[gsn]

this might be a good place to start;

http:Mini Manstoppers: Using A .22 WMR Load For Self-Defense

 

[gsn]

again all remember I don't have a .22lr snub so I really don't know how it shoots.

Hopefully we can find out: what the difference is between the two from a snub and if that difference is significant, though I tend to believe that even a few ft lbs more of energy is enough to recommend one round over the other IF one is trying to decide which to buy but perhaps not enough reason to replace a lr gun, unless of course one wants to and/or is able to do so.

Forgot to mention that we should also keep in mind that while the performance may or may not be alot the cost difference is very very significant AND availability, I understand, has been somewhat of an issue in the recent past.

I just find the wmr to be, well- really cool.

 

[mrchuck]

Kel-Tec makes a semi-automatic 22 Mag pistol called a PMR-30.
30 round magazine.
It is a FIRE breather and puts out a large flame.

 

[LoboGunLeather]

The .22 WRF magnum is an outstanding cartridge when used in a suitable rifle that will make the most of its ballistic capabilities. When fired from a pistol, especially a snub-nosed revolver, the results are far less impressive. Lots of blast, lots of muzzle flash, but very little (if any) performance capabilities beyond .22 LR expectations.

Very much like the .357 magnum. When fired from short-barreled revolvers there is little difference from .38 Special ammo, other than the increased recoil, blast, muzzle flash, etc.

We can dream all we want to. We can visualize anything we like. But reality will always remain reality, no matter what we might wish for.

 

[pawncop]

I have a High Standard Mark IV 3 inch barrel in .22 WRM, nine (9) shot revolver.

It's an intriguing handgun, fun to shoot. Not certain of the ballistics, but it's lightweight easy to conceal, it always appealed to me when I read about it in the magazines years ago.

 

[Absalom]

A guy I used to know carried a single-action .22 Magnum (I think it was a 4" barrel) when cougar hunting with hounds, back when that was still legal here. He swore by the caliber for taking down treed cats. More wham than a .22, but no more damage to the pelt.

 

[retiredbadge8091]

Counting on a head shot in a self defense scenario is best left to Navy Seals and Hollywood gun fighters. One's target should be center mass with a .38 caliber or better round. In my humble opinion of course.

 

[gsn]

these two vids to my eye show a significant difference:

https://www.youtube.comwatch?v=j5J14juvOUk

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ynfHXfoips[/ame]

curious as to what others see

Keep in mind that civilian self defense shooting occur at much much closer ranges than leo shootings, civilian are very up close where ANYONE, myself included really cannot miss shots to the head.

Toss in the new defense ammo for both LR/.22 and ..............

 

[gsn]

Can't seem to fix things, if you google .22 lcr on this channel you will get the other vid.

With the lr the bottles just pop, with the .22 wmr the bottles explode, of course the reaction would depend on shot placement but the more I research the more I am leaning towards the wmr.

and yes I certainly could be mistaken

 

[Talldog]

And now you have the LCRx 3" in .22WMR.

 

[Farmer17]

I see no need for a .22 magnum handgun, especially a snub. The ammo used to be cheaper but it is now fairly expensive and not much superior in performance to Stingers in a short barrel. With a .38 you can use a light target load if you don't want much power or recoil or +P if you need more muscle and snake shot and plastic bullets are also an option.

 

[rond]

I have both 22 lr and mag handguns and there is a very big difference in the two. I had a NAA 22 mag that had a lot more power than the 22 lr model, my son talked me out of it.

 

[THE PILGRIM]

Snubby 22 Mag? Not really sure how practical it is.
But I have tried several times to buy a 2 inch 651.
Maybe because I have a 2 and a 4 - 63, and a 4 inch 651.

 

[Muss Muggins]

I've got an LCR and an NAA in .22 WMR. Love 'em both . . .

 

[Jessie]

My biggest concern EDCing any .22 is ignition reliability.
I've had far too many misfires for me to trust it for defense.
I believe CCI has the best record, but even those have failed on occasion.
That's why you have such heavy triggers on .22 revolvers.
A .22 snubby is what I use for snakes at home, though. Perfect for that but I use .22 short hp.