24 Shots With Two Police 4” Reg Mags…..

[lestert357]

using a rest from 30 feet. Ammunition was .38 Special Speer LE Gold Dot 125 Grain GDHP rated at 865 FPS, so the guns were not stressed at all.

As you can see the results were nothing to brag about…..

The blue KCPD Reg Mag has the Baughman Quick Draw front sight and square notch rear sight. The gun was factory sighted in at 50 yards using .38 Special mid-range wad cutter ammunition with a dead center hold. Using a 6 o'clock hold I shot it 6 times with 2 in the red, 3 in the 10 ring, and the 1 at 12 o'clock in the 9 ring. I shoot this gun pretty well for me.

The nickel McColl, SC PD Reg Mag has the McGivern Gold Bead front sight and "U" notch rear sight. The gun was factory sighted at 25 yards with Magnum ammunition using a dead center hold. Using a dead center hold I shot it 18 times with 3 in the red (the large hole in the red was 3 hits), 1 in the 10 ring, 6 in the 9 ring, 4 in the 8 ring, and 4 missed the rings altogether.[emoji38] For some reason I have a tendency to pull this gun low and left as you can see, even though I was using the dead center hold and concentrating on using only the pad of the tip of my trigger finger. I love the feel of the factory fitted stag grips on this gun but I'm wondering if the slightly non-symmetrical shape of the grips might be affecting my pull on the trigger. I'll keep working with my hold and trigger finger placement to see if I can move those low left shots to the center. I don't want to mess with adjusting the rear sight as the small screw slots are pretty much unmolested.

Anyway, last Wednesday was a beautiful day for shooting in the West Virginia mountains, and I get to wear things there that don't go over too well here in the Northern Virginia suburb neighborhoods of D.C.[emoji38]

 

[Ruger 13]

Good lookin pair of pistolas!

 

[shawn mccarver]

What holster brand and model is that?

 

[lestert357]

What holster brand and model is that?

The holster is one that the KCPD purchased from S. D. Myres for the 4" Pre-War .357 Magnums, and as you would expect, they fit a 4" RM perfectly. There is no model number marked on it…..

 

[LPD256]

Always fun shooting a piece of history. Based on the target I'd pronounce the bad guy deceased. Now you need to shoot those from the hip in the old FBI style. And trade in your ball cap for a fedora. Love those guns.

 

[quinn]

While I don't have the statistics to back it up, Terry, I'd be willing to bet a buck that that holster is rarer than either of the RMs you shot. What fun!

BTW, thanks for your historical info on the KCPD and FBI magnums.

 

[John Patrick]

We're neighbors.

I live in Chevy Chase and we have an office (for a few more months) in Arlington and a warehouse in Springfield.

Nice revolvers!

I assume the target was shot double action? If so, try SA, if not, try DA to see if POI shifts. Also maybe try a knuckle back. FWIW, I find I shoot revolvers best one knuckle back from the pad.

I've been told POI low and left is recoil anticipation, but I'm not sure I agree.

 

[lestert357]

I'd be willing to bet a buck that that holster is rarer than either of the RMs you shot.

Randy, I wouldn't disagree with that. I have only seen 2 of the holsters since I started following and researching the KCPD Pre-War .357 Magnums 6 years ago, one that sold with a KCPD Magnum on the Gunauction.com Website back in 2007…..

Photo credit - Gunauction.com - jackthedog

and the one I have which was listed on EBay a few years ago…..

 

[RKmesa]

Great guns! Well shot!

Thanks for sharing,

 

[StrawHat]

Terry,

There is enough vertical dispersion with the blued revolver to suggest the sight picture was not always the same, but fairl consistent.

The nickel revolver groups low and left. If it were recoil anticipation, the blued revolver should also be grouping in a similar fashion. The same for trigger position.

My suggestion is dry fire practice. Use a black wall for background, align your sights on a imaginary spot on the wall, concentrate on the front sight and squeeze the trigger. If the sights move, you are jerking the trigger or it is mechanically imperfect. If the sight remain stationary, that is good. When I shot competition, I shot more dry fire rounds than live fire. I can still squeeze a shot without disturbing the sights. Seeing that front sight is getting harder with each passing year!

My shooting coach gave me this target to use for trigger pull, etc.

Kevin

 

[Green Frog]

Looks like a great day. It's a good thing you didn't wait for the weekend as Ian dumped a drizzmal rain on me all the way through WV as I drove home yesterday afternoon. As for the different results with the two guns, I'd either do a lot of practicing with the stag handled one until I learned it's idiosyncrasies or just save it for barbecues where "shooting the bull" requires less actual accuracy!
Froggie

 

[bower]

Terry, You may want to try different brands and bullet grain weight(158 gr)38 special as I think it will give you higher point of impact. Very nice pair.

 

[lestert357]

Thanks for all of the tips guys; that's really what I was hoping to get from this thread. I'll try them all! At 76 years old I'm still basically a novice shooter, but I'm very thankful that I can still have some fun with it.

 

[Old cop]

We're the same age and this looks like pretty good shooting to me. So what am I missing?

 

[Green Frog]

We're the same age and this looks like pretty good shooting to me. So what am I missing?

The target was shot from rest at a distance of thirty feet (that's just 10 yds. as accurate as those revolvers were built to be, even 80+ ago, it would be expected that they would both do a lot better than that. No judgement here, JMHO.

Froggie

 

[Old cop]

Understood but still pretty good for us old men.

 

[M29since14]

As long as you're having fun, it's pretty good, IMO. And there's always room for improvement!

 

[Old cop]

Yup, especially where I'm concerned.

 

[series guy]

A friend at the range says "if I pull the trigger six times and nobody falls down that's a win".