317 kit gun
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BSkerj
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I own one and shoot it quite often. Mine is the 3 inch barrel. I bought it LNIB from a Fish and Game officer who wanted a semi-auto. I don't think he put more than 50 rds through it. It is accurate up to 10 yrds and then starts falling off. I put it in my day pack when fishing or hiking and forget it is even there. The only thing I don't like about it is the DA is kind of rough but other than that I would buy it again.
so would you say a partridge would be safe at 20yds or so
AkRay
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It's hard for me to believe that a Smith & Wesson that's accurate to 10 yds is no longer on at 20 yds. 317s are extremely light and small revolvers, which usually adds up to being more difficult to align the sights and keep them on target while pulling the trigger.
2storm6bird2
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S&W has excellent Customer Service, but...
I'll share my experience w/317's. I've owned four (4) of the 317 1 7/8" barrel, fixed sight versions (all purchased new), over the past decade. The most recent of the 4 I picked up new 12/16/10. After cleaning I took it to the range. It locked up on shot number 6 of the first cylinder full of ammo. I tried 9 different kinds of ammo. None made it through a complete cylinder without jamming/heavy dragging/very hard trigger pull. Plus, the right side of the hammer was eating into the frame. Also shot high.
I called S&W and they shipped my 317 back to the factory. Couple weeks later S&W sent me a brand new, more expensive, 317-2 3" with the adjustable sights. They said my returned gun had too many issues to make it worth while to repair.
So now I have my 5th 317. I haven't shot it yet, not sure what I'm going to do with it. I love the concept of the 317. All of mine have had some issue small or large.
My dream 317 would have Scandium frame, stainless steel cylinder, big fixed sights, 2.5" barrel.
I'll share my experience w/317's. I've owned four (4) of the 317 1 7/8" barrel, fixed sight versions (all purchased new), over the past decade. The most recent of the 4 I picked up new 12/16/10. After cleaning I took it to the range. It locked up on shot number 6 of the first cylinder full of ammo. I tried 9 different kinds of ammo. None made it through a complete cylinder without jamming/heavy dragging/very hard trigger pull. Plus, the right side of the hammer was eating into the frame. Also shot high.
I called S&W and they shipped my 317 back to the factory. Couple weeks later S&W sent me a brand new, more expensive, 317-2 3" with the adjustable sights. They said my returned gun had too many issues to make it worth while to repair.
So now I have my 5th 317. I haven't shot it yet, not sure what I'm going to do with it. I love the concept of the 317. All of mine have had some issue small or large.
My dream 317 would have Scandium frame, stainless steel cylinder, big fixed sights, 2.5" barrel.
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Mr Pokeyman
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What is a "KIT" gun?
I never understood that term. Anybody care to explain it to me?
I never understood that term. Anybody care to explain it to me?
dbracin
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I have a couple of them and I've put many rounds thru them both with no troubles. I love mine and no amount of money could buy them for the fun I've had.
They were named Kit Gun because they're perfect to have in a tackle box or field kit.
I bought my 317-1 sometime around 2001. Mine has been shot quite a bit and was factory serviced for excessive endshake after about 5500 rounds. The service work didn't cost me a penny and I had the gun back in 8 days. I was using it to help train new shooters, but I've retired it from that type of duty. If you plan on doing a lot of shooting, you'll probably be happier with a steel gun. If you want an ultra light weight .22 to carry in the field, the 317 is hard to beat.
I like my 3" so much, I bought a 2" to use for snakes when we hunt out West. It was a good excuse to buy it! I haven't killed any rattle snakes yet, but my 3" has accounted for one grouse. It's not a 20 yard grouse gun, but at 20' they're in trouble!
I bought my 317-1 sometime around 2001. Mine has been shot quite a bit and was factory serviced for excessive endshake after about 5500 rounds. The service work didn't cost me a penny and I had the gun back in 8 days. I was using it to help train new shooters, but I've retired it from that type of duty. If you plan on doing a lot of shooting, you'll probably be happier with a steel gun. If you want an ultra light weight .22 to carry in the field, the 317 is hard to beat.
I like my 3" so much, I bought a 2" to use for snakes when we hunt out West. It was a good excuse to buy it! I haven't killed any rattle snakes yet, but my 3" has accounted for one grouse. It's not a 20 yard grouse gun, but at 20' they're in trouble!
Torakan
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I have fired over 500 rds thru mine since buying it last summer and carried it on 4 camping trips and about 20 day hikes. I ahve never had a problem with the gun. I love this little revolver. It is a little harder to shoot well than my S&W 34 & 422 but when you get the hang of it this little gun will perform! My 16 year old daughter pretty much claims this gun when we go shooting and she is pretty good with it. I did replace the factory uncle mikes grips with factory bananna grips and it now fills the hand and controls much better.
To my suprise, I can shoot my 63 (new model with 3"bbl) as well as my 617 with a 4" bbl. I do almost all my shooting double action.
The two revolvers are significantly easier for me to hold steady throughout the DA pull and shoot offhand groups with. They may not be more accurate than my 317 but take less effort to shoot well for me.
The two revolvers are significantly easier for me to hold steady throughout the DA pull and shoot offhand groups with. They may not be more accurate than my 317 but take less effort to shoot well for me.
22-rimfire
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I just recently purchased a new 5" Model 63. I have not shot it much yet, but as much as I like the 317, when it came to buying a new J-frame revolver, I chose the Model 63 since it is a steel gun and I expect more durable. I seriously want a 3" Model 63 now for more descrete woods carry. I would expect it will be a 10 to 15 yard gun in my hands and the 5" a 15-25 yd gun or normal 22 handgun shooting ranges.
RAMS
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My momma always said, "A 317 is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get."
The only one I ever owned (a very early 3") was a very good gun; accurate and a dream to carry. My hunting buddy had the same experience; we bought ours at the same time.
On the other hand, for the last five years or so I have heard an occasional horror story.
I now carry a 3" Model 63 as my fun gun; easier to hit with and built like a SP 101, but with a far better trigger and sights than the Ruger. In addition, you can feed the 63 all the Stingers you can buy. Not a good idea with a 317, although a few Stingers used as "defensive" rounds are OK.
The only one I ever owned (a very early 3") was a very good gun; accurate and a dream to carry. My hunting buddy had the same experience; we bought ours at the same time.
On the other hand, for the last five years or so I have heard an occasional horror story.
I now carry a 3" Model 63 as my fun gun; easier to hit with and built like a SP 101, but with a far better trigger and sights than the Ruger. In addition, you can feed the 63 all the Stingers you can buy. Not a good idea with a 317, although a few Stingers used as "defensive" rounds are OK.
owenwd54
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I like the 317
I have two 317 one is the 3" and the other the 1 7/8'. The 1 7/8 I have has a wolf spring set in it and I have polished the rebound slide and reall y love shooting it have not had any ftf out of it. The 3" one is stock and it shoots good to have not had the time to work on it .
I think that both of my 317 shoot good and would not part with ethier one of them.
I would love to have the new 63 3" .
I have two 317 one is the 3" and the other the 1 7/8'. The 1 7/8 I have has a wolf spring set in it and I have polished the rebound slide and reall y love shooting it have not had any ftf out of it. The 3" one is stock and it shoots good to have not had the time to work on it .
I think that both of my 317 shoot good and would not part with ethier one of them.
I would love to have the new 63 3" .
I bought my wife the Lady Smith with the short bbl. It had the nice wood grips. She wasn't too impressed with the gift but wouldn't give it up. It isn't a target gun for sure but not too bad up close.
I bought a 3" and put wood J grip stocks on with a Tyler T grip. I bought another for my son. rough triggers but allot of fun. I like them.
I bought a 3" and put wood J grip stocks on with a Tyler T grip. I bought another for my son. rough triggers but allot of fun. I like them.
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