327 PC shooting low?

[Bushman Tahou]

Hello all, first post here.



Recently picked up a new to me 327 PC 2" model. Function has been great but I am having an issue with my groupings being significantly low with the sight picture I am used to from J frames. I'm talking 6" low at 7 yards, a fairly good grouping centered on target but at that low I don't think it's merely an issue with my hold. I've tried 110gr Critical Defense 38s, 125gr 38 +P black hills, and 124 gr Remington 357 Magnum SJHP. All of these had slight variation in POI but still considerably low. Has anyone else with this revolver had the same experience? Is it simply sighted for 158gr bullets and nothing else? With no front sight availability and no other adjustments available I need to find something that will get me close to hitting what I aim at.

 

[max503]

A file to the front sight will bring the group up. I googled 327 PC and it looks like it has a replaceable front sight so you have nothing to lose except the cost of a new sight blade if you booger it up.

Or else shoot heavier bullets.

 

[Bushman Tahou]

A file to the front sight will bring the group up. I googled 327 PC and it looks like it has a replaceable front sight so you have nothing to lose except the cost of a new sight blade if you booger it up.

Or else shoot heavier bullets.

It is a replaceable sight, but from my research it looks like a unique dovetail.

 

[studenygreg]

It is a replaceable sight, but from my research it looks like a unique dovetail.

I still haven't found a new front sight for mine. I gave up.

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[S&WIowegan]

Is it impossible for you to adjust your aim by holding the front sight higher? I bought a near new 9mm EZ from a friend who had the problem you have. Gun hits POA if I hold the front sight up a bit.

Are you shooting double or single action?

 

[Bushman Tahou]

Is it impossible for you to adjust your aim by holding the front sight higher? I bought a near new 9mm EZ from a friend who had the problem you have. Gun hits POA if I hold the front sight up a bit.

Are you shooting double or single action?

Double or single, doesn't make a difference.



And of course I can aim high, but I don't think it's too much to ask a 1300$ performance center revolver to shoot to it's sights. There's a big difference between that and a $450 polymer automatic in what I expect but maybe that's picky of me

 

[michpatriot]

I feel for your dilemma..I solved mine on two different Scandium j frames. On the MP340 I un-pinned the front sight and filed one side of the sight where it fits into the barrel shroud and then fabricated a thin shim to the opposite side and drilled through the shim and re-pinned the sight..hits where I want now. The second was on my 340PD I got rid of the red ramp and replaced it with a taller Trijicon front sight. my sights were not dovetail like yours but I would love them to be! I'd just file it down and get it exactly where I wanted with 357 short barrel rounds and be done..its very satisfying to get what you strive for..nothing else compares to perfect..odds are no two people will be satisfied with the same sights. Make it yours. My 329pd is for my hands only also..with just one weight, type and velocity that makes me all warm and fuzzy. Sometimes custom is the only answer, seems like its always the only answer for me. All three make me grin and all three took the leap with tools and a little faith.

 

[S&WIowegan]

Well you can be "picky" if you need to be. Is this a fixed sight gun? If so you have two choices: 1. Keep trying different ammo until you find the load that shoots POA. or 2. You can adjust your sight picture to make your chosen ammo hit where you want it to.

Good luck.

 

[max503]

It is a replaceable sight, but from my research it looks like a unique dovetail.

Just be careful with that file.

 

[twodog max]

I think the easiest "fix" may be to just use heavier bullets. If it were mine before doing surgery that's what i would try.

 

[Bushman Tahou]

I think the easiest "fix" may be to just use heavier bullets. If it were mine before doing surgery that's what i would try.

I think you might be right, but I don't have my reloading setup available right now and the ammo selection is considerably limited. Thinking I'll just list it for sale. Clearly Smith knows best but filing or aiming 6 inches above what I need to hit just aren't going to work out for me in the long run unfortunately. And there is no way I'm taking a file to a gun this expensive. What astonishes me is that they don't offer other sights of various heights to fit the same dovetail. They would have been better off sticking with the pinned style front sight

 

[Curt32955]

I had the same issue with this revolver…the front sight is too high so I filed and sanded it down. I then had to send it back to S&W because the barrel came loose and unthreaded while shooting it. I informed S&W at that time the front sight was too high and I had to file it down because it was shooting 5" low. I asked them to replace the sight with the right one and that I'd pay for it. No response on that issue and my revolver returned with a tightened barrel and the same filed front sight. Anyway, I decided to put crimson trace grips on it. More comfortable to shoot and that bullet goes precisely where that red dot points….who needs a proper front sight on a $1300 PC revolver???

 

[__steve__]

6" at 7 yards seems a big change to compensate with ammo.

Is this your carry, range or both?

 

[mtgianni]

Have a friend shoot it and see where it goes to their point of aim.

 

[Bushman Tahou]

6" at 7 yards seems a big change to compensate with ammo.

Is this your carry, range or both?

Both. I listed the 3 different loads I tried in the original post. If I was getting poor groups or something pulling to the left or right I would say I was jerking my shots or flinching, but I was getting decent fist sized groups dead center and low. I had heard some rumblings about this and it seems like a few others had the same problem so I guess I'm not alone.

 

[colt_saa]

Welcome to the Forum

And of course I can aim high, but I don't think it's too much to ask a 1300$ performance center revolver to shoot to it's sights. There's a big difference between that and a $450 polymer automatic in what I expect but maybe that's picky of me

You bought a fixed sight 357 Magnum revolver

It does not matter how much you paid for it, if you expect it to shoot to the Point of Aim, then you need to know which 357 Magnum loading it was regulated to and what type of sight picture was used and adapt to those.

Using other ammunition loadings, including 38 Special, I would expect that my Point of Aim would need to be changed

How does the revolver shoot for other people?

Of course there are other front sights that a gunsmith could install for you, even if it meant modifying one to fit to Titanium barrel shroud's dovetail.

The 327 family of revolvers is a great step forward for all day carry. You can pack an 8 shot 357 Magnum revolver that weighs less than a snub nosed Model 19/66. In fact it even weighs less than the all steel 5 shot 2 inch Model 640.