357. lever action

Like Erich, I have an older Navy Arms/Rossi short rifle. Mine is stainless with the 20 inch octagon barrel that I have added a tang sight. This has been my ATV , front door, truck rifle for years. Don't know how many thousands of rounds I have fired. Most are plinking 158 swc over 5 grains 231. My thumper load is 180 grain Remington semi jacked hollow point over 13 grains of 2400 in new 38 special cases. That bullet is too long in 357 cases . I know I am pushing the envelope with this load, but it works well in the 92 action. My rifle of opportunity during hunting season.
 
ok everyone I found a jm stamped marlin at my lgs for 550 its selling used but never even fired guy bought it for his kids and never took interest I have tried to search the serial # with no results it looks good as far as fit and finish but I'm a toatal rookies at leverguns so its a gamble and I want to secure it now if I can before someone else does pls help with serial # 93025653 thank you.

I think you got a very good deal on this one. Stock up on plenty of ammo you are gonna need it cause that gun is a lot of fun to shoot.
 
I think you got a very good deal on this one. Stock up on plenty of ammo you are gonna need it cause that gun is a lot of fun to shoot.

thank you I just want this to be my shtf defensive carbine and I sure hope its reliable without taking it to have work done on it to make it that way as for ammo I have been having a very hard time finding any 38/357 as of late. I think I have said before I'm married to 357. caliber all my guns are those except my 625 that I never shoot and thinking about selling in the latest run on ammo I could only find 40. I almost got a 226 just b/c ammo availability my problem is a $1200 gun that I can have 10 rounds in.
 
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The 1873 Winchester in .357 magnum is not a good idear. i have seen a lot broken one's. The lock is to weak for the powerfull .357 magnum.

I was talking about the new Winchester 73. I doubt many have even seen one yet.
 
Why so long? No state has a waiting period like that.

so i asked today about this and they said state law per pawn rules and regs they can not sell for 30 days that's what I was told.
 
These are fun little rifles. My buddy just picked up one a couple weeks ago and we took it shooting the other day.
Fun and accurate little sucker for sure.
38/357 is noticeable difference in feel for sure
But you cant beet the 357 in long gun for varmint control
After shooting his it is now on my "want list" for sure.
 
The 1873 Winchester in .357 magnum is not a good idear. i have seen a lot broken one's. The lock is to weak for the powerfull .357 magnum.

I guess Winchester is UN-informed.
 
Just a note about the accuracy of those older Marlins; Last summer I was shooting my match AR at a messured 230 yards. When I was through with the AR, just for gigles I tried my old Marlin .357, with American Eagle JSP. I was supprised that I was hitting the same targets at that range. I had never shot it beyond fifty yards before.
I know it had lost most of its "Knock Down" at that range, but still...
 
I'm guess I'm going to have to go against the grain here, let me give y'all the back story first, let first state right up front that I'm a bonafide Marlinholic.
Back in 2005 I purchased a Marlin 1894SS .44 mag as a gift to myself upon redeployment. I thought that it was the bee's knees, light compact with lots of thump. The original intent of this rifle was as a foul weather and woods bumming rifle. It shot really well with the Win White box 240gr JSP ammo, which I really liked because it was about $21 at the time. I used it that year during deer season and smacked a good sized doe at about 80 yards. At the shot she humped up in classic fashion and bolted for the wood line. When I got down to the patch of dead golden rods she was standing in I couldn't find any signs of a hit. I searched and searched but didn't find anything.

The next weekend I went back out and took a really nice spike horn at about 40 yards. I went to where he was standing to look for spoor so I could begin tracking and again found nothing. At this poitn I just picked up his tracks in the snow and followed. I went about 30-40 yards before I started seeing any blood, and then it was only pin head sized droplets. I finally found him about 100 yards in, he almost made it to a swamp. Had it not been for the snow I'm sure I wouldn't have found him due to the super thick brush he ran into. A few days later I helped a friend track a deer that he shot in the same area that I shot at the doe. As I was following the blood trail of his deer I came across the remains of what I firmly believe was the doe that I shot at. My heart immediatley sunk to my stomach, and I couldn't believe that she traveled 200 yards from where I shot her from.

From that point I swore off the Win JSP for deer hunting. I went out and got everything that I needed to reload for my .44 soon after. I came up with a good load using a Max charge of H110 and a Hornady 240gr XTP-HP. I used that load back in 2010 to take a nice 4 point at a whole 30 yards. Before I shot the deer I was certain that the .44 with the load I was using was going to pole axe that buck. I put the cross hairs behind his shoulder and dropped the hammer. To my amazment and disbelief I watched as he ran down a small gully then laid down about 120 away. I tried to move close to put the buck down for good, as soon as I moved though he got up and continued deeper into the thick woods. I had no choice but to sit their fuming mad and watch the whole thing play out to the end. I've never had that happen to me using my .30-30, sure deer will often run after being hit I know that. But the performance of that rifle on 3 different deer peeved me off to no end.

Every deer taken with my .30-30 traveled no more than 50 yards tops, and left a blood trail a blind man could follow. In light of current events with the price hike on all ammo and components I couldn't justify keeping the .44 anymore. So I sent it packing and don't regret it one bit. The last few years I've gotten back to my roots. I hunt very thick woods and swamps here in the north, I like to sneak into where they live. As such a rifle doesn't offer any benifits, however a shotgun and slug sure does. More often than not a deer hit with a shotgun slug will take a instant dirt nap and I mean right now. Another plus is unlike certain ammo shotgun ammo is readily available. I was priceing .357 ammo and .44 ammo at the various stores in my locale and I couldn't believe the prices I was finding, even components are outrageous.

Well I did a lot research before I figured out what was going to replace that .44 mag. I finally setteld on a H&R 20 gauge Pardner and it is a dandy. It is simple, rugged and locks up like a bank vault. At the distances that I most commonly encounter deer it is way more than enough, and easily capable of reaching out to 100 yards if needed. Which is really the the max distance anyone should be shooting deer with a pistol caliber rifle too. I ended up taking a nice sized doe with the 20GA at approximately 50 yards. The performance was way better than the .44 rifle it replaced, she covered maybe 20 yards before collapsing. For a survival scenario I can't think of anything better than a shotgun. Again ammo is everywhere and still affordable. Here in the eastern woodlands there is nothing that a properly stoked 20 gauge or 12 gauge can't handle. It can take anything from small game on up to the biggest baddies that we have to offer. If you add some chamber adaters it only becomes more versatile. You then have the ability to shoot .410, .44 mag, .38/.357, 9mm, and .22LR.

This is of course based off my experiences. I know lots folks like and use pistol caliber carbines. I don't know why I had such bad luck but I did and it wasn't due to bad shot placement. But when it comes down to it at the end of the day nothing beats a good shotgun. In a survival scenario it can keep you fed on various types of game, as well as defend hearth and home if need be. Just some food for thought is all.

Doe taken with the 20GA Parnder


7 point taken with Mossberg 500 12GA at 30 yards, instant dirt nap where he stood
 
@336a please clarify how you can shoot multiple calibers from a 20 ga shotgun I hope I'm not misunderstanding your post here if I am can you enlighten me on what it is your saying in this post.
 
Without seeming to be a killjoy, it is impossible to determine shot placement on unrecovered animals.
 
@336a please clarify how you can shoot multiple calibers from a 20 ga shotgun I hope I'm not misunderstanding your post here if I am can you enlighten me on what it is your saying in this post.


There are, basically, chambers, that can be put into larger guns.

Some are just chambers, so you can use a smaller cartridge that is the same caliber and use your normal barrel. Like 32ACP in a 30-caliber rifle.
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Others have some barrel attached to the chamber. That lets you chamber, say, a 30 carbine in a 12 gauge, or a 45/70 in a 20 gauge.

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ok I guess I learned something today I knew you could change handgun calibers like 40. to 9mm or 357. sig with barrel swap but not long guns.
 
so if I understand correctly these would be mostly for break open actions only as putting a insert in my 12 ga for a 30-30 or 357 could not really work for a pump action am I right.
 
Well, a rifle could be changed, but you're right, it would have to be the whole barrel and chamber. Then you'd have an added complication of action length. The best combo, just like handguns, is .38SPL and .357Mag. You already have that.
 
You could probably do it, but it would be a pain in the butt.

You'd have to pull the barrel, to get enough room to put the chamber-and-barrel in. A three-inch chamber with eight to ten inches of barrel attached would be hard to get through an ejection port.

You could then load the "sub-caliber" round through he port, but once you close the bolt, the shotgun's extractor will grab the adapter, and after you fire it will want to extract and then eject that adapter.

I suppose you could cut a notch on the edge of the adapter, so there is nothing for the extractor to grab. You'd just need to put the adapter in the gun the same way each time. Then after firing your (for example) 30/30 in your 12 gauge 870, you open the bolt, then set the butt on the ground and run a 22-caliber cleaning rod (that's the size I would use) down the shotgun barrel, and then into the rifle barrel, to knock out the fired 30/30 case.

Really be easier to open up you H&R Topper. :D

I know a guy with a 16 gauge Husqvarna underlever hammer-gun. He has a 45/70 insert in the right barrel. Made himself a "cape gun".
 
Also, even with a break-open, you'd have to mark the adapter so it gets back in the chamber the same way each time. If the adapter is rotated, the point-of-impact can (and most likely WILL) change.

It is my understanding that that is how you regulate it. Put it in your gun and mark the adapter at 12:00. Shoot it. If POI agrees with POA, wonderful. If it does not, open the gun and rotate the adapter, right or left, reload, shoot again, see how POI moved.

Once you have POI agreeing with POA, mark the adapter. A small file-cut on the rim at 12:00 would work. That way, whenever you put the adapter back in the gun, you put the notch at 12 and you should be good-to-go.
 
Without seeming to be a killjoy, it is impossible to determine shot placement on unrecovered animals.

No offense taken as I knew very well how that rifle and load shot out to 100 yards. I was able to take the shot at the doe from a stable (prone) position and settled the cross hairs right behind the shoulder. The two bucks were recovered as stated in my first post. Either way IME it dosen't matter. At the end of the day it certainly didn't perform as well for me as my shotguns have, nor offer the verstility. From ducks to bucks, no matter.

REVL33, some of the adapter such as the 3" can be used in pumps. However the longer ones are better suited to break action shotguns. Here is another place to look as well Short Lane
 
I recently read where John Taffin said that if he could only have one center fire rifle, it would be a .357 Lever Gun. I agree.

As much as I like my Marlin .357, if I could only have one center fire rifle I would go with the 30-30. Let's face it, the 30-30 just gets the job done and it has much more knock down power than pistol cartridge rifles.
 
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