39-2: is it a gen 1?

[rwadley1]

I'm tracking a 39-2 from '76-77. It's nice... probably 95%, but has no box.

When I found it, I didn't understand the differences between it and a model 39. In my research, I feel like I have a better understanding of the model/changes, etc. (Of course, I always welcome insight from this forum.)

My question is, is a model 39-2 generally considered a first generation autoloader?

 

[cougar015]

My question is, is a model 39-2 generally considered a first generation autoloader?[/QUOTE]

The answer is yes. Model 39-2 is still a 1st generation with modifications and improvements. The 2nd generation 9mm's are the Models 439, 539 and 639

 

[gmborkovic]

Simply put, the 39 has the long extractor and the 39-2 has the improved
short extractor. There are few other small differences and improvements.

 

[rwadley1]

Thanks for clearing that up. It's a little confusing, but not unusual for Smith & Wesson.

In my opinion, the seller is asking way too much at $720. What do you think a fair price would be on a 39-2 as described?

 

[gmborkovic]

Mr. OP, impossible without pics. Its a 1977 gun, lots were made.
$720 sounds high. If I saw it at a show, I would stop and look.
But I like mod-39s. Sounds like a run of the mill shooter.

 

[rwadley1]

Thanks. I'm thinking it's more like a $500 gun. Just trying to determine if I'm off base...

 

[shawn mccarver]

The 39-2, like the 59, is Gen 1. The 439, 459 and their variations are Gen 2. The 3904, 5904, and their variations are Gen 3.

 

[Engine49guy]

While it is true that the 39 and 39-2 are considered 1st gens there were quite a few modifications from it's introduction to the introduction of the 2nd gens,

IIRC there were three different extractors used on the first gens, the wide long fat early one (which supposedly had a tendency to break if the slide was dropped on a chambered round) , the two piece improved design found on some state police models and the new shorter thin version found on dash 2 models,

On a side note there was a short fat extractor which briefly appears in the early gen 2's (sometime around 1980 ish for some sorta govt trial ?) before changing back to the dash two version found into the end of the gen 3's.

The 39 fits the hand better because of its thinner single stack gripframe and rounded heel, it's wood grip panels give it a classic look that the thin plastic paneled 59 just doesn't have, adding wood panels to the 59 tends to make it even thicker which is it's general weakness.

 

[stansdds]

$720 sounds like a Gunjoker price for a used, no box, no docs, blued model 39-2. The blued 39-2 was the most commonly produced version of the first generation S&W 9mm pistols. I'm thinking more in the $500 range unless it comes with additional S&W (not Promag or Triple K) magazines. Spare mags for the 39/39-2 and x39 pistols are still fetching $40-$50 each.

 

[cmansguns]

Chart for S&W Generation semis

Attached chart has been published many times but here is a copy you can print for yourself as you slide down this very slippery slope of S&W semis

You may think (as I did) that your first being a 39-2 is probably the only interest you'll ever have in semis by the famous revolver maker S&W.

Easy way to remember generation: 2 digit Model = 1st; 3 digit Model = 2nd, 4 digit Model number = 3rd.

As posted by others the asking price might be fair enough IF it comes with the extra FACTORY magazine AND is in pretty prima condition.

The last pic just added is of a Model 39 that doesn't belong to me and I'm just beginning to research for a friend. I believe this the early "long extractor" that did pose some problems for owners, and you may wish to take that into account as you think about buying.

PS: they are sweet shooters too!

 

[ispcapt]

Easy way to remember generation: 2 digit Model = 1st; 3 digit Model = 2nd, 4 digit Model number = 3rd.

Generally true. Then S&W screwed up their numbering system by producing the value line. Those are 3 digit model numbers but are also 3rd gen guns.

 

[Sevens]

And S&W also numbered Performance Center guns oddly as well.

 

[gmborkovic]

The early long, spring extractors were no problem if you charged the chamber from the mag, like it was designed. It is similar to the old rifle claw extractor. Like a Mauser, Krag or 03-A3.
To Rwadley, if you want to learn more, go to the Auto section, go to the top bar and push "search". Type in" Seductive power..." and click. You will find a thread with 100s of posts and pics. Days of reading awaits you. Mike