3rd Gen Auto newbie 4013

[EPGuy80]

I've been wanting a 3rd gen auto since I saw Jerry Miculek's 5906 video on YouTube. I finally took the plunge and made myself the proud owner of a two tone 4013. I know .40 isn't the in round now, but I like having the option of doing a 10mm conversion. Anyone happen to know much about these? I'll most likely get a letter sometime because I'm curious. I've seen another forum post that these were a Lew Horton run for the Colorado State Patrol, but this one obviously isn't marked.

 

[BLUEDOT37]

Nothin' wrong with a .40 in my mind.

Interesting find! If you think it might be a Lew Horton send them an email (to "[email protected]") with the SN# & ask them. Earl, at LH, is very nice & will get back to you promptly with an answer. If it is one of their's he'll send you a letter (pdf attachment) with details if you include your mailing address too.

Mine's just a "regular" one but it was in great shape when I got it. If I find a second one it'll convert it too, but not this one.

Congrats!

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4013 (non-TSW) left side

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[DD357]

I'd rather rather have the 9 but if I ran across a deal on the 40 version I would not let that stop me. Nice gun.

 

[EPGuy80]

Thanks for the warm welcome gents. I have to say that I really love this gun. The DA is really sweet. I had seen reviews that said these aren't very accurate. If I decock every shot, I can get about 1" groups at 7 yards. Granted that isn't practical, but I'll take it to mean it's a good shooter. I'm not crazy about the SA, but I do love the reset on it. I need to swing it by a gunsmith to have the feed ramp and chamber polished, I had a few nose up failures to feed with 180 grain Federal flat nose. If I need to change out the mag spring, which I think might help, where can I get those? I've seen some online, but it doesn't say if they're for the 8 round or the 9 round mag, are they interchangeable? Thanks in advance.

 

[EPGuy80]

I'd rather rather have the 9 but if I ran across a deal on the 40 version I would not let that stop me. Nice gun.

I prefer 9's, I've got a great SW99 and a sweet custom Beretta 92G Brigadier, but I've been wanting a 40 so that when ammo dries up from time to time, I can still find some.

Not only that I have a "Smith" in 9 already and one in 45 (1911SC), so I wanted a trifecta.

I probably paid more for this one that I should have, but I really wanted it.

 

[BLUEDOT37]

I need to swing it by a gunsmith to have the feed ramp and chamber polished, I had a few nose up failures to feed with 180 grain Federal flat nose.

If I need to change out the mag spring, which I think might help, where can I get those? ...the 8 round or the 9 round mag, are they interchangeable?

I really doubt it's necessary for a gunsmith to polish them. You should be able to clean/shine them up yourself with little effort & have good feeding. 3rd Gen routinely feed empty cases off the magazine without issues. I would suspect the magazine spring before a ramp issue.

No, the dual stack (9) round mag springs (4013TSW) are not the same as the single stack (8) round springs (4013 non-TSW). If it doesn't say I wouldn't buy them. The dual stacks are more common.

Wolff Gunsprings makes an extra power replacement that I'd recommend:

S&W 4013/4053 +10% XP MAGAZINE SPRING Pak of 3

"Wolff 4013 Magazine Springs" link

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[EPGuy80]

It looks like you reload. I don't have the skill or the time to do that. However I am curious as to what you feed yours. I tried Federal 155, 165, and 180 grain JHP and it seemed to like all three. I took your advice and ordered the 3 pack of Wolff magazine springs since I have exactly 3 mags and an extractor spring (brass was flying everywhere). I read that Sprinco sells the dual nested recoil springs, but the ones I have seem fine so far. The only other things I want to get for it are a holster, spare mag carrier, and night sights. Any other recommendations?

 

[adrianolsen]

I would suggest a disconnector since they are usually polimer

 

[J. W.]

Nothin' wrong with a .40 in my mind.

Interest find! If you think it might be a Lew Horton send them an email (to "[email protected]") with the SN# & ask them. Earl, at LH, is very nice & will get back to you promptly with an answer. If it is one of their's he'll send you a letter (pdf attachment) with details if you include your mailing address too.

Mine's just a "regular" one but it was in great shape when I got it. If I find a second one it'll convert it too, but not this one.

Congrats!

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4013 (non-TSW) left side

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How do you like the Hogue grips? I've been thinking about ordering a set for my 4013.


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[smith10]

Nice gun as it is in 40. And cooler with the 10mm conversion option.

 

[Cortelli]

How do you like the Hogue grips? I've been thinking about ordering a set for my 4013.


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I put the same Hogue grips on my Model 411. I still have the original grips of course. I prefer the Hogues. Definitely thicker (which works for me on this pistol), and nice and grippy. I didn't have any significant issue with the original grips, but thought I'd try the Hogue's - glad I did.

EDIT Edit to add: I sometimes got a slippery grip in high heat and after numerous rounds with the original grips; I don't experience the same with the Hogues.

 

[BLUEDOT37]

How do you like the Hogue grips? I've been thinking about ordering a set for my 4013.

I like them. The only 3rd Gen I've put the rubber Hogue's on & didn't like (& removed) was my 4006.

Another plus on the Hogues is they add a mainspring seat that stays on the frame so you can remove the Hogue grips and not have to remove the mainspring, unlike the factory grips.

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[colt_saa]

Welcome to the Forum and Congratulations on a interesting find

I too am a fan of the 10MM Auto cartridge and have already converted a 4014 into a 1014.

I now have a 4013 on the way, it will be converted after I settle in the new house.

I did not realize I would need to look for a two tone to have a complete set

 

[EPGuy80]

Welcome to the Forum and Congratulations on a interesting find

I too am a fan of the 10MM Auto cartridge and have already converted a 4014 into a 1014.

I now have a 4013 on the way, it will be converted after I settle in the new house.

I did not realize I would need to look for a two tone to have a complete set

That's a great looking pistol you've got there. What sights are those? They look a bit different than the ones I've got on mine. One thing that I really like about my 4013 is that it's a decock only.

 

[colt_saa]

That's a great looking pistol you've got there. What sights are those? They look a bit different than the ones I've got on mine. One thing that I really like about my 4013 is that it's a decock only.

Those are the sights that came with it. I never really paid it too much attention

 

[digiroc]

I have 4013 that is converted to 10mm. I plan to have some work done on it that includes Meloniting the slide and barrel that will give me the same two-tone look as yours.

digiroc

 

[EPGuy80]

That's nice. I'm really liking it. I didn't realize these 4013's were so difficult to find. I saw another one of your posts on another thread about your 3914NL. Did you have Teddy Jacobson work on it yourself or did you buy it like that? I think I'd like to send him my pistol as the single action is a little creepy. This is assuming he's still up and running after Harvey.

 

[EPGuy80]

I would suggest a disconnector since they are usually polimer

Where do you get those? I haven't been able to find one specifically for this pistol or do they all use the same one? Thanks in advance.

 

[jsbethel]

The 4013 uses a metal disconnector part #104210000. The polymer disconnector used in the value and CS pistols is part #239070000.

You shouldn't need to replace it.

 

[SuperGoat]

I know it is not the same but I got a model 4006 in .40, these 3rd gen S&W's are amazing guns. I think I will be looking out for more. I also like .40, it seems like a 'red-headed stepchild' round when I ask for it at the gun shops but I honestly enjoy it more than 9mm at the range.