Ok guys, I know there's another thread on this but I looked for a while but couldn't find it. Ok here's the problem my 40c will get FTF's or will hiccup loading a new round. I THINK I figured it out. Federal AMMO, Federals shape is not a true hollow point shape. The copper jacketed lead on the practice rounds is just a regular round nose with the end cut flat. Now go look at another manufactures ammo, I haven't shot them all but I bet you'll see it's more triangular up the sides. Now correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the 40S&W designed from the get go to shoot hollow points? I don't know but I'm going to do some more testing today. PS Federal hollow points are slopped triangular, and my gun shoots those fine. Federal practice ammo is shaped differently.
40c problem slide sluggish (hickups)
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Can you be more specific on the FTF or hiccup? Did it fully eject the spent casing? Did the slide lock back? Did the new round not seat all the way forward in the chamber? All of these issues can have completely different reasons. The only FTF i've had in my Shield 40 was when the slide locked back twice on me after firing, but there was rounds in the magazine. This was a failure of the ammo I was using not sitting properly in the magazine causing the slide to think the magazine was empty. Not a huge issue as just releasing the slide would chamber the next round fine. Still you just can't use some types of ammo in certain guns as they just don't work.
Can you please give a little more detail in the FTF scenario?
Can you please give a little more detail in the FTF scenario?
Ok, I'll try to be more specific. At times when I am firing my M&P 40c, the slide will act sluggish going back in to battery, it hiccups on its slide forward. Sorry that's the best description I can come up with. Other times the slide will be held back where you can look right down in to the chamber and see the round just wedged nose first on the feed ramp. Now I think I figured it out. Like it's the Federal ammo. The shape is of a regular round ball ammo with just the tip cut flat, as with other ammo it is more triangular just like a hollow point is designed. I'm now going to be on the lookout for practice ammo that has the triangular shape and stay away from the federal ammo. I posted this is I read another thread on this issue and other people where having the same issue but I can't find the thread. It looks like the admins moved this thread as well, not to helpful in my opinion. I hope this better describes what I'm trying to get across.
Jyezahn
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Are you sure it's the nose of the round catching the feed ramp, and not the leading edge of the casing catching the front of the magazine? I only ask because sometimes when manually unloading my full size magazine, the rounds catch there. It doesn't happen on my compact magazines though, so I will have to look closer at the angle of approach on both and maybe a little filing of the magazine will be in order.
Nope happens in both magazines. I'm no expert, and this is my humble testing, but buy a box of federal ammo, and check it next to another and you'll see the difference in the shape, clear as day. A 40 S&W was designed from the ground up as a hollow point round. Makes sense to me.
Jyezahn
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Perhaps a picture showing the round getting stuck?
Sorry all out of the Federal ammo
All I'm trying to do here is offer a suggestion to a problem. I read a thread here before on this same problem, and because I can't search the threads I started this one. All I can do is offer a suggestion to those it effects, is to look at the head of federal PRACTICE ammo not their hollow points and compare them to other manufactures practice ammo and the difference will be plain as day. Like I wrote before, I was told that the 40 S&W round was designed as a hollow point right from the beginning. Trying to shoot reular ball ammo (as in the case of the fedreal ammo) is the problem.
All I'm trying to do here is offer a suggestion to a problem. I read a thread here before on this same problem, and because I can't search the threads I started this one. All I can do is offer a suggestion to those it effects, is to look at the head of federal PRACTICE ammo not their hollow points and compare them to other manufactures practice ammo and the difference will be plain as day. Like I wrote before, I was told that the 40 S&W round was designed as a hollow point right from the beginning. Trying to shoot reular ball ammo (as in the case of the fedreal ammo) is the problem.
