I have about 25 rounds of the R41MG2's. How do they compare for SD through my 58? Thanks.
Great thread, BTW.
Great thread, BTW.
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.41 Magnum Defensive Rounds....
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BlueDot...I have tried the Pachmayer Compacs that came on the NG but they just didn't fit my hand well. As I don't shoot the gun very much the wood works fine. As to extraction of the full Magnum loads...no clue as I prefer the mid-range ammo such as the Silvertip/CorBon 170s/C.O.P. so none have been fired in it. I have fired six rounds of full loads in the 357PD and extraction was fine.
W4...which round is the R41MG2? I am not home so I can't check the boxes. That said, any Remington round round is going to work just fine... If the G2 is the 210 Lead SWC at 950 it will work about the same a good .45 ACP round but with a little better penetration.
Bob
W4...which round is the R41MG2? I am not home so I can't check the boxes. That said, any Remington round round is going to work just fine... If the G2 is the 210 Lead SWC at 950 it will work about the same a good .45 ACP round but with a little better penetration.
Bob
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FWIW...spoke to Peter Pi, owner of CorBon at the 2012 SHOT Show. When he was a LEO he carried a 58. He said he has always carried the 170 JHP ammo but since doing tests on the new ammo using the Barnes 180 all copper HP he has switched over to that.
Federal, CorBon and Barnes all make rounds using that bullet. It is the one I carry when urban carrying a .41. The copper HP opens up real quickly and at 1350 fps is going to create a large temporary wound cavity/shock area.
Bob
Federal, CorBon and Barnes all make rounds using that bullet. It is the one I carry when urban carrying a .41. The copper HP opens up real quickly and at 1350 fps is going to create a large temporary wound cavity/shock area.
Bob
Frank V
Member
I'm kind of late getting here.
Thanks for posting those results.
I favor the Win. 175 Silvertip for defense, it's controlable & hits pretty hard.
Thanks for posting those results.
I favor the Win. 175 Silvertip for defense, it's controlable & hits pretty hard.
I like the 175gr Silvertips as well. The Speer Gold Dots are also an excellent choice in .41 mag.
.41 yeah.............................
Doug M.
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I think that is the 170 grain SJHP, which seemed to be a scaled up version of the very successful 125 SJHP in .357. I think I had some for a while, but it was hard to find and expensive. I don't recall what it was like to shoot, but I suspect it was pretty hot and a bit unpleasant. There is a real difference between qualifying with a load on the typical silly qualification course and being able to use it well under realistic conditions. The mid range SWCs seems like a winner for social use in the .41.
Frank V
Member
I'm staying tuned for more tests.
We're supposed to get a storm tonight too. It's turned from a nice sunny 40 degree day to a cloudy, windy, 40 degree day.
Hopefully I can find some more 175gr WW Silvertips.
Barnes is now manufacturing their own ammunition. 
41 Magnum was recently added to the lineup. My care package just arrived last week but I have not had a chance to chrono them yet.
It is a long way down those hollow points
Muzzle Velocity is listed at 1520 but I have no idea from what barrel. Fortunately I have everything from 2" to 20" to test it in.
41 Magnum was recently added to the lineup. My care package just arrived last week but I have not had a chance to chrono them yet.
It is a long way down those hollow points
Muzzle Velocity is listed at 1520 but I have no idea from what barrel. Fortunately I have everything from 2" to 20" to test it in.
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Frank V
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Colt SAA
Are those leadless bullets?
I'm a huge fan of the Colt SAA also!
Are those leadless bullets?
I'm a huge fan of the Colt SAA also!
Doug M.
Member
Yeah, they are all copper and as far as I know, have performed well in all calibers for social use. I'd think that anything over about 1200 fps in a 4" revolver would be pretty unpleasant for older hands. I also bet that those are pretty awful on the wallet, too. 
I have shot the Federal vesion of that load and it really isn't that unpleasant...and runs in the 1300s.
Was speaking with Peter Pi, owner of CorBon, at the 2012 SHOT Show...he is a .41 fan and said he carried a Model 58 when he was in LE. He had been carrying his 170 grain load but said he has now switched to the 180 Barnes in the CorBon loading.
There is also a company name C.O.P. (copper only projectiles) that has close to the same bullet but a bigger HP. It is running 1100 from my 4" guns and is actually pleasant to shoot in the AirLite guns...it is what I have in the NightGuard now...
Bob
Was speaking with Peter Pi, owner of CorBon, at the 2012 SHOT Show...he is a .41 fan and said he carried a Model 58 when he was in LE. He had been carrying his 170 grain load but said he has now switched to the 180 Barnes in the CorBon loading.
There is also a company name C.O.P. (copper only projectiles) that has close to the same bullet but a bigger HP. It is running 1100 from my 4" guns and is actually pleasant to shoot in the AirLite guns...it is what I have in the NightGuard now...
Bob
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Groo01
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Groo here
I believe the 41 mags for Pusser were loaded by J.D. Jones [SSK]
If you can carry reloads or have a Custom Manufacturer [ mine is Kudu
Kustom]
You might look at GT Bullets.
They have #4 41mag boolets [ #3 Are HP]
The most interesting being a 215 gr SWC-HP.
With a 1000 FPS loading , they may be just the ticket.
I believe the 41 mags for Pusser were loaded by J.D. Jones [SSK]
If you can carry reloads or have a Custom Manufacturer [ mine is Kudu
Kustom]
You might look at GT Bullets.
They have #4 41mag boolets [ #3 Are HP]
The most interesting being a 215 gr SWC-HP.
With a 1000 FPS loading , they may be just the ticket.
Frank V
Member
I think had the .41 mag been brought out with a lighter say 175-180gr bullet in the high 1000fps range it might have made a hit with law enforcement?
As is it is a pretty good defense round.
I have shot the WW Silver Tip & it's comfortable to shoot.
As is it is a pretty good defense round.
I have shot the WW Silver Tip & it's comfortable to shoot.
Frank,
The problem with that idea is that in 1965, there were no jacketed hollow point bullets that would expand reliably when driven to only 1000 FPS. Hard cast had not hit the commercial industry yet and the swagged bullets that the commercial ammunition companies were using at the time would severely lead the barrels going that fast.
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Frank V
Member
Colt SAA
You are correct I remember when the first Super Vels hit the market wow.
They were pretty fast & no leading. I have seen what a heavy lead bullet @ 800-1000fps will do in the game field & think it'd be great for defense.
Hey I found a box of WW 175gr Silvertips.
You are correct I remember when the first Super Vels hit the market wow.
They were pretty fast & no leading. I have seen what a heavy lead bullet @ 800-1000fps will do in the game field & think it'd be great for defense.
Hey I found a box of WW 175gr Silvertips.
Reddog
Absent Comrade
Superman,
Being a long time follower of the .41 Mag, I have really enjoyed this thread! Thanks for the good work!
Dick
Being a long time follower of the .41 Mag, I have really enjoyed this thread! Thanks for the good work!
Dick
Frank V
Member
Superman thanks for the great information on this thread.
Do you know if the information on the box of Matts Bullets is still a good contact address?
Thanks.
Do you know if the information on the box of Matts Bullets is still a good contact address?
Thanks.
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