sourdough44
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Nice graph & data. Win 231 is another good powder for many handgun loads.
45 acp loads
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Kaltbluter:
What are your conclusions plotting your data? For example, can you conclude that 5.6 grains, which seems to have the lowest velocity spread, is also the most accurate load when target shooting? Just curious.
Regards,
Guy-
What are your conclusions plotting your data? For example, can you conclude that 5.6 grains, which seems to have the lowest velocity spread, is also the most accurate load when target shooting? Just curious.
Regards,
Guy-
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I'm pretty sure the reduced spread was just chance. I am using a cheap Cabela's brand scale to measure loads, it claims an accuracy of +/- 0.1 grains. It would be interesting to try this again with a high end scale.
5.0-5.2 had some cycling issues and just felt weak.
5.9-6.0 recoil felt a lot like factory loaded 230grain (wwb).
I shot a nice small group with the 5.6 (probably just luck,but I need all the help I can get) so I went with that one.
The reason I made the graph was because there was some pretty wide spread in the various reloading manuals and I wanted to see which book was the closest match.
Large 45 acp loads
Guys, interested in loading 45acp with large bullets like for instance the speer 4481 or speer 4485
Bullets 45 Cal (451 Diameter) 260 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point Box of 50
Bullets 45 Colt (Long Colt) (451 Diameter) 300 Grain Jacketed Soft Point Box of 50
Since this is outside of the reload books and also since I am new to reloading, I am looking for all the information I can get.
Guys, interested in loading 45acp with large bullets like for instance the speer 4481 or speer 4485
Bullets 45 Cal (451 Diameter) 260 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point Box of 50
Bullets 45 Colt (Long Colt) (451 Diameter) 300 Grain Jacketed Soft Point Box of 50
Since this is outside of the reload books and also since I am new to reloading, I am looking for all the information I can get.
Stainless44
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The Berry's site recommends 850 to 900 fps for their 45 bullets. Pick a load from your manual that matches that and you're off to the races.
Berry's states that the bullets aren't designed for velocities north of 1,200 fps.
Have fun.
Berry's states that the bullets aren't designed for velocities north of 1,200 fps.
Have fun.
fredj338
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The problem is you are loading plated & they are not jacketed & data is not the same. So the Hornady, Speer & Lyman notes are really not valid for any comparison. Also w/o a chronograph, you are only guessign at vel. Also, vel given in manuals is always test paltofrm specific, not coming form your gun, so there will always be differences in data.
Frank46
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A good buddy had some dillon stuff for sale, that and some reloading components. Well 3-500 round boxes 230 grain round nosed 45 cal bullets, 3000 winchester large pistol primers and about 7-800 45 acp cases. And about 4lbs of winchester super target. Pretty good deal for someone who really started shooting seriously with a 1943 Ithca 1911A1 and the origional sights. After the initial bullets were gone did not see any reason to change his load. Any 45 acp case, win lp primer, 4.3 grains wst and a hard cast 45 cal 230 grain round nosed bullet. That load is one I have been using for about 16 years now and see no reason to change it. When we shot steel plates we had to chronograph the ammo in order to make major. With that load it was vary easy to make major. I was never anywhere near the top, but for about 60 guys and asorted ladies sunday morning took on a quality somewhat like a religious experience. Thanks, Frank
ArchAngelCD
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IMO W231 (HP-38) was made for the .45 Auto and is a perfect match. I'm not crazy about plated bullets but W231 will work just fine with them...
john16443
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Here's some information from Speer on the 4481. May not be the published data in their most current publication, but should be a good start. Start and lowest recommendations and work up.
Why would you want to shoot a 300 grain bullet???
Here is the best answer I have.
I look at the spread of bullets for a 40sw from 155 gr to 200gr. I then look at the bullets available for the much larger cartridge which is 200gr or 230gr. so in jumping from .40 to .45 caliber all you can get is 30 more grains of bullet.
That made we start thinking about what else you could get that was still .451 in diameter. I will concede the 300gr was just a bullet that was also .451 in diameter.
The 45ACP is a great platform. Shooters either have one or want one but to me 200gr and 230gr isn't a good use of it.
Lastly, in the automatic format it appears your choices are 40 sw, 45 ACP or 50 AE. You have to go to such a large platform in the 50AE to get a 300gr bullet and I just thought that maybe one could close the gap between 230gr and 300gr using the 45ACP platform.
ArchAngelCD
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Are you sure that 300gr bullet isn't meant for the .45 Colt? That is a heavy bullet for use in the .45 Auto.
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