460 Rowland

[jbremount]

Anyone converted their .45acp pistol to shoot the 460 Rowland? It sure looks like a good hunting cartridge or just a fun gun to have!

 

[kd4rgwml]

I put a kit on my Kimber. Easy to reload and it's a real blast to shoot.
It will make a great hog hunting gun. Loud and powerful...whoop whoop!

 

[vmumford]

I put the kit on a Springfield. Some minor fitting of the barrel but outside of that all worked well. Felt recoil is higher due the the cartridge and more expensive to shoot however I found Johnny's personal stash is the cheapest to buy out there if your not a re-loader. Looks cool but hangs out the bottom of the holster. I have not noticed any accuracy issues with it. Its shoots to my ability. Its a fun conversation piece.

 

[jbremount]

I finally got around to ordering the 460 Roland kit for my smith & Wesson M&P 45 and all I can say is "Wow"! I read a lot of posts and most were years old, some good, some bad. As far as I can tell, all the bugs are worked out on the kit sold on 460rowland.com(IT'S HERE!! The Smith and Wesson M&P 4.5″ Compensated Conversion | .460 Rowland(R)). In fact, there are some positive improvements to the older kits. That said, my M&P45 conversion shot like a dream. Not one malfunction and smooth, smooth, smoooth! Follow up shots are much faster with way less recoil and muzzle rise than with a 44 wheel gun. I shot both 460 Rowland and 45ACP self defense ammo in the conversion and the 460 Rowland ammo was very manageable considering the energy and velocity difference of the two rounds. Very little muzzle flip if any and the gun felt solid in the hand while shooting. I think, due to the design of the comp, the gun pushes straight back only slightly more than the 45ACP. Therefore, contrary to what I was expecting, I can shoot this gun comfortably all day long. I didn't want to stop shooting the 460 Rowland! It was just that much fun and a pleasure to shoot. Now, the fun stopper, the cost of the 460 Rowland ammo is quite high. Therefore, Next/phaseII, I need to get up to speed on 460 Rowland reloading ammo data, and dive into reloading the next batch of rounds. That should not be too bad either and my 45acp setup can reload 460 Rowland also.

 

[Sandust]

jbremount
Im seriously looking at this kit for use in Alaska as bear defense.
You said it was very reliable. Is that still the case?
How many rounds do you have thru the gun and is there any significant wear or battering?
I would be using the Underwood 255 grain hard hast
I have a 44 mag but not sure if accurate follow up shots are possible by me.
thanks

 

[jbremount]

jbremount
Im seriously looking at this kit for use in Alaska as bear defense.
You said it was very reliable. Is that still the case?
How many rounds do you have thru the gun and is there any significant wear or battering?
I would be using the Underwood 255 grain hard hast
I have a 44 mag but not sure if accurate follow up shots are possible by me.
thanks

I have only put about 50 rounds of 460 rowland ammo through the gun so far. I shot 25 rounds of Johnny's Magnum Hollow point,240gr FMJ at 1300fps and 25 rounds of Johnny's personal carry,185gr FMJ HP at 1575fps. Then 25-50 rounds of my standard personal defense 45acp ammo. That said, the 460 rowland ammo I purchased is expensive, but I think reloading for it should be easy and pretty straight forward. From my research and the way my guns shoots , I would recommend the Authentic 460 Rowland kit. I think the Authentic 460 Rowland compensator and the Authentic 460 Rowland recoil springs system are better than the Knock off kits. The newest compensator has more holes in it and the newest spring kit has two flat springs.Those two (compensator and dual spring recoil kit) really make a difference! IMO, when you add the cost of a threaded barrel, recoil springs/rod, and compensator that tuned to work, it not cheap, but not a stomping bad deal either.

 

[Sandust]

jbremount
thank you for the response. I'm going to order the kit and test it for follow up shots.
I camped in the AK tundra last year for 3 weeks and even though I did not have to defend myself from the bears, they were certainly an eye opener. You can't always have a rifle on you.
I will be there again this coming Sept.

 

[BEEMER1]

Put one on a Colt Combat Elite. Mine is a Clark Conversion.