susieqz
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both spellings are acceptable.
always have been.
always have been.
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Yegads! Ketchup/catsup has some, uh, less than savory origins:
"...Initially a paste made from fermented fish guts, it was first recorded in 544 BC in Important Arts for the People’s Welfare; according to the legend, while in the course of pursuing his enemies, emperor Wu-ti came across a pit filled with fish entrails and covered with dirt from which “a potent, delicious aroma,” could not help but emanate. For some reason, they actually ate it, learned to love it and at first named it Chu I..."
I surmise ol' Wooty must been right peckish when he came across that particular odor and decided it was delicious...
And on the spelling, although both go way, waaaay back:
"...It appears that catsup was the predominant term in the United States through the about the 1870s when ketchup began to appear. Some authorities claim that the distinction between the two marked the differences in quality, as ketchup, the term used in Britain, was usually seen on expensive, imported sauces; this claim is supported by the fact that Heinz sold two types of these condiments in the 1880s, a cheaper, Duquesne Catsup, and a more expensive, Keystone Ketchup...."
Ketchup or Catsup?
"...Initially a paste made from fermented fish guts, it was first recorded in 544 BC in Important Arts for the People’s Welfare; according to the legend, while in the course of pursuing his enemies, emperor Wu-ti came across a pit filled with fish entrails and covered with dirt from which “a potent, delicious aroma,” could not help but emanate. For some reason, they actually ate it, learned to love it and at first named it Chu I..."
I surmise ol' Wooty must been right peckish when he came across that particular odor and decided it was delicious...
And on the spelling, although both go way, waaaay back:
"...It appears that catsup was the predominant term in the United States through the about the 1870s when ketchup began to appear. Some authorities claim that the distinction between the two marked the differences in quality, as ketchup, the term used in Britain, was usually seen on expensive, imported sauces; this claim is supported by the fact that Heinz sold two types of these condiments in the 1880s, a cheaper, Duquesne Catsup, and a more expensive, Keystone Ketchup...."
Ketchup or Catsup?
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carpriver
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We do not have a 5 Guts around here, When I want a big juicy fat burger and grease filled fries I hit the local corner bar. The guy grabs a hand full of ground meat from the fridge makes a patty throws it on the grill with a slice of onion, toasts the bun. The burger comes med rare with a slab of dill pickle. I have one about once a month. I try to eat some what healthy but just gotta have a great burger once in a while, and a cold beer
susieqz
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word etymology is totally fun.
DWalt
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Whatever the source, I feel that a good burger needs a lightly toasted bun to provide more body and firmess. I don't like soft buns.
I would never compare all ranges of burgers together. I separate them into groups. Group 1, fast food joints, I don't call them restaurants. McD is the worst of this bunch, with DQ and Whataburger at the top. I have never eaten at 5 guys or In n Out, so I won't comment on them. Group 2, specialty hamburger places that are a cut above fast food, and usually don't have a drive thru. These are Smashburger, Mooyah, and the like. Group 3 would be casual chain restaurants, like Chili's, Ruby Tuesday, Outback and countless others. Group 4 is local places. These can be the real gems with great juicy burgers around half pound, that send you straight to nap time. Group 5, homemade. Great quality, although consistency is sometimes lacking.
I like them all,(except McD) depending on what I feel like eating, and how much I want to eat, and how much I want to spend.
Of course, the places are all dependent on what kind of employees they have, and their system. My local Steak and Shake can have good burgers, but have real issues about losing orders, or losing customers.
I like them all,(except McD) depending on what I feel like eating, and how much I want to eat, and how much I want to spend.
Of course, the places are all dependent on what kind of employees they have, and their system. My local Steak and Shake can have good burgers, but have real issues about losing orders, or losing customers.
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DWalt
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One other unlikely nominee is a place that has a good burger and fries plate, but that's not its specialty - is IHOP. Really - try it. For all you "Senior Citizens" (which I think they define as 55+) they also usually have "buy one get one free" deals from 3pm to 6pm. At least the local ones do. Denny's also has a respectable burger, but I always get pancakes there - Dennys' pancakes are better than IHOPs'.
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cmort666
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Parason's in Brook Park had the best lasagna I've ever had.
People from NE Ohio as a general rule don't like their food to have much more flavor than the packaging it came in. To them, mayonnaise on white bread is "spicy ethnic food". If a packaged item comes in "mild", "medium" and "hot", the odds are that Giant Eagle will AT BEST have "medium". "Mild" is more likely.
Well its fast food so my expectations not that high.
I need quick, convenient and tastes reasonably well. 5 guys lives up to all of those criteria for me.
If they could make a burger as good as mine shame on me. LOL
If i had to guess why they do so well here is that at least they are cooking a raw hamburger to start with unlike Mcdonalds and Burger King which are reheating something thats been cooked for who knows how long. Wendys still starts with a raw burger.
I need quick, convenient and tastes reasonably well. 5 guys lives up to all of those criteria for me.
If they could make a burger as good as mine shame on me. LOL
If i had to guess why they do so well here is that at least they are cooking a raw hamburger to start with unlike Mcdonalds and Burger King which are reheating something thats been cooked for who knows how long. Wendys still starts with a raw burger.
AJ
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A couple of TV reporters here made a big deal out of Dallas getting In and Out burger places a few years ago. My kids have tried them and say they're average, at best. Haven't tried them on the basis of that advice.
My adult children are pretty sophisticated eaters. They're probably right.
The burger place we've preferred is Snuffer's, on lower Greenville Ave. But the various locations for Burger Street are otherwise the best that I've seen for hamburgers.
I'm sure that various franchise/chain hamburger places vary by location, at least some.
I've never seen a 5 Guys. Some Dairy Queens here are pretty good. I avoid McDonald's. Burger King and Jack in the Box are usually just okay, sometimes a little better.
My adult children are pretty sophisticated eaters. They're probably right.
The burger place we've preferred is Snuffer's, on lower Greenville Ave. But the various locations for Burger Street are otherwise the best that I've seen for hamburgers.
I'm sure that various franchise/chain hamburger places vary by location, at least some.
I've never seen a 5 Guys. Some Dairy Queens here are pretty good. I avoid McDonald's. Burger King and Jack in the Box are usually just okay, sometimes a little better.
AJ
US Veteran
Primanti Bros., for those that have never been there, look them up and go if it is close enough.
Eminence
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In'N'Out Burger and animal fries. Nuff said
Texas Star
US Veteran
Wow no love for 5 guys over here. I just went once, in London, and thought they were good, but I do recall it was terribly expensive. I mean it was like 3 times more expensive than a McDonalds.
In the States I went to a place called "ShakeShack" if I recall correctly. In Manhattan. Saw a review on a magazine and decided to go. Went there and there were people waiting in line outside! Is that even common? Maybe they were all dumb tourists like me.
I liked it also... but really.. I just love all burgers, I'm not very picky at all.
Can you even get hamburgers in Uruguay? Do they have a lot of places there were you can get good beef, like in Brazil and Argentina?
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You boys have some pretty high standards for "fast food".
I wish I had pics of what and where we used to eat down in Mexico during the 70s. Street food stands that looked like something Spanky and Buckwheat nailed together for a lemonade stand. Cooked food in some old chemical barrel and used a cut section of a tree stump to chop meat and "veggies" (I know that word will give some of ya heartburn
). Actually, it all tasted pretty good after a fifth of Tequila.
I wish I had pics of what and where we used to eat down in Mexico during the 70s. Street food stands that looked like something Spanky and Buckwheat nailed together for a lemonade stand. Cooked food in some old chemical barrel and used a cut section of a tree stump to chop meat and "veggies" (I know that word will give some of ya heartburn
). Actually, it all tasted pretty good after a fifth of Tequila.
Fishslayer
US Veteran, Absent Comrade
Oh yeah! Whattaburger is pretty darn good for a fast food burger! Unfortunately we don't have one in my area that I know of. Might have to Google. Y'all got me hungry now.
When they had that big "Best fries" contest some years ago they dq'd Rally's seasoned fries because they weren't really a classic french fry. I would agree not a fair comparison.
McD's fries and that ridiculous take on a Hot Pocket hybrid of an apple pie.
I love 'em.
Just no accounting for taste.
cmort666
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...unless you're working second shift, aren't given time for breaks and dinner, have no place to refrigerate food and are making the proposed minimum wage.
You may want to come home and cook dinner at 2-3:00am after working 2-3 hours of illegal unpaid overtime, but you can count me out.
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