This is the same technique I figured out too.. I feel like I shouldnt be doing it because thats one of the first things you always read about trigger control NOT to do but it works for me..??
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This is the same technique I figured out too.. I feel like I shouldnt be doing it because thats one of the first things you always read about trigger control NOT to do but it works for me..??
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Hammerdown77
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Thanks Moondancer, I'm gonna stick with it for now. Been doing a lot of dry firing, and the trigger is starting to smooth up a little, but it's still awful heavy. Need to put in a Midway order this week for various things, and I might get the Wolff trigger springs to try out, leaving the mainspring stock.
Talked to a few guys at work and they all said the same thing: These guns are hard to shoot well beyond "up close and personal" distance, at least without lots of practice.
I too am wanting to try some different grips, maybe the skinny wood service grips. I found that the way up high hold that so many advocate on revolvers does not work well for me on this gun, since the space behind the trigger guard is filled with grip, which basically makes me pull the trigger back at a 45 degree angle to it's arc of travel. This reduces the leverage I have on the trigger, making it even heavier. If I move my hand down, or remove the grips so my fingers can slide up behind the trigger guard, I have a more straight back pull on the trigger, and increase in leverage.
I've gotten a blister at the base of my thumb like yours from shooting my 629 with rubber Hogue grips. The rubber grips are nice, but if you are going to shoot a lot in one session, that rubber will literally pull the skin right off. That's where the smooth wood grips are a better option.
Talked to a few guys at work and they all said the same thing: These guns are hard to shoot well beyond "up close and personal" distance, at least without lots of practice.
I too am wanting to try some different grips, maybe the skinny wood service grips. I found that the way up high hold that so many advocate on revolvers does not work well for me on this gun, since the space behind the trigger guard is filled with grip, which basically makes me pull the trigger back at a 45 degree angle to it's arc of travel. This reduces the leverage I have on the trigger, making it even heavier. If I move my hand down, or remove the grips so my fingers can slide up behind the trigger guard, I have a more straight back pull on the trigger, and increase in leverage.
I've gotten a blister at the base of my thumb like yours from shooting my 629 with rubber Hogue grips. The rubber grips are nice, but if you are going to shoot a lot in one session, that rubber will literally pull the skin right off. That's where the smooth wood grips are a better option.
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Hammerdown77
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Yeah, double action revolvers are different, requiring the use of the first joint (or beyond) instead of the pad. I have to remember to go back to using the pad when I pick up my 1911s and Ruger single actions.
Ya same thing with me when I go to my ruger.. Luckily I have a SIG P220 Carry with a DAK trigger and it is just like a DA revolver trigger so that one stays the same as the 642.
photoman
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Use a three finger rubber grip and 110gr standard pressure loads or 148gr wadcutter loads. Work up from there.
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This thread got to me and I just had to do it. I could not find a 642 locally but did find a 442 @ $388 out the door so with the rebate it will be $338 minus a postage stamp. Not quite as good as the OP's deal but still a good deal. My dealer had several and sold to me for what he said was his cost just to generate some cash.
luangtom
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You will get so used to carrying such lightweight that it will become second-nature to just shove it in your pocket when you leave the house. I have carried a J-frame of one flavor or another for well over 30 years. Enjoy!!! Oh, I now stuff mine with Speer GHDP 135-gr for short-barrels in the .38-Special +P load.
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Update
Well, I've dry fired this thing a LOT since I got it, and the action has smoothed up a bit. Yesterday I received my Wilson Combat spring kit from Midway (they were out of the Wolff, and I didn't want to wait). Took the gun apart and sprayed Gun Scrubber all in the works (it was pretty nasty). Installed the 8 lb. hammer spring and 14 lb. trigger return spring. Coated everything with a light coat of Tetra gun grease and reassembled. The trigger pull is much, MUCH better.
I will reserve final judgement until I can take it to the range again. I'm particularly concerned about light strikes with the lighter hammer spring. If I don't have any problems lighting off various types of ammo, I'll say it's good to go. If I have problems, I'll put the stock hammer spring back in and maybe experiment with the lighter 13 lb. return spring.
Oh yeah, the screws holding down the sideplate were "pre-buggered" from the factory, yet they were only finger tight! Weird.
Well, I've dry fired this thing a LOT since I got it, and the action has smoothed up a bit. Yesterday I received my Wilson Combat spring kit from Midway (they were out of the Wolff, and I didn't want to wait). Took the gun apart and sprayed Gun Scrubber all in the works (it was pretty nasty). Installed the 8 lb. hammer spring and 14 lb. trigger return spring. Coated everything with a light coat of Tetra gun grease and reassembled. The trigger pull is much, MUCH better.
I will reserve final judgement until I can take it to the range again. I'm particularly concerned about light strikes with the lighter hammer spring. If I don't have any problems lighting off various types of ammo, I'll say it's good to go. If I have problems, I'll put the stock hammer spring back in and maybe experiment with the lighter 13 lb. return spring.
Oh yeah, the screws holding down the sideplate were "pre-buggered" from the factory, yet they were only finger tight! Weird.
sipowicz
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Try a padded gel glove for practice...it will make shooting much more pleasurable...and you will still be building technique...if you ever need the gun in an emergency, it's only a couple of rounds, and you won't feel a thing anyway.
Rebate check came in the mail today.
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