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Hello, it is me again.
Found this two beauties. Want to buy one but have noe clue which one. Perhaps u can help me again?
Number one:
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Number two:
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What is the difference, i think number two hast a shorter barrel.

Greetings
 
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These look like Smiths offered for export sale only, so you won't find many on this board with first hand knowledge of these specific variations. They were never sold in the States.

I can tell you they are excellent guns, in general. They would sell for more than $1,000 in the US. The fancy grip is made by a German company called NILL.

I would love to own both. Many members have similar M627's and they may chime in.

What can you tell us?
- serial numbers
- product codes (6-digit number on box label)
- dash numbers
- six shot or eight
- export and proof marks
- asking price
 
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Ah, export models, nice to know. Can´t tell you anything more. Unfortunately, I only have the pictures.
Thank you
 
The top one looks to be a standard model 627-0 that was sold in the USA, product code 101024 from 1989, about 5000 produced. 5.5" barrel? Would typically sell for $1200-1500 here, higher value with the box and contents.

The second is a similar gun with the barrel etching, 6" barrel, product code 101028. No production date or numbers mentioned in the standard published reference but made close in time to the 627-0 above. A letter of authenticity would give you information on either one:

http://www.swhistoricalfoundation.com/Letter_request_form.pdf

Hope this is helpful.
 
S&W doesn't have a good system for allowing foreign nationals to request a factory letter from overseas.

It would be cool if they did. Then we could better document some of these uncommon export only guns.
 
It's doubtful #2 is a -0 since it doesn't have a flash chromed hammer and trigger.

Maybe at some point the OP will be able to validate the dash number, and the serial numbers, since export only guns often had unique serial number prefixes.
 
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Very cool. I like number 2. I never liked the look of the slant cut lug on the 627 so I purchased a 327 trr8 instead. Didn't know there was a full lug option. Is this still possible today to purchase the 627 like this?
 
If the top one is a 627-0 I would buy it. If you don't buy it, please send me info so I can possibly purchase it. Thanks.
Both guns are overseas, in an EU country. It is possible to re-import. A member here had a M617 brought in recently, from Germany, took about 8 months IIRC. He had the procedure. I could find the threads if you were really interested.
 
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It's doubtful #2 is a -0 since it doesn't have a flash chromed hammer and trigger.

Maybe at some point the OP will be able to validate the dash number, and the serial numbers, since export only guns often had unique serial number prefixes.

The similarly marked guns to photo 2 sold here were 627-2s, I think. Back in the "gun of the month" era at the factory :).
 
The lower one is a 5 inch 627-2, may have a CCU xxxx serial number. The Target Champion guns were foreign export guns, although I saw one here in the US several years ago. Don't know how he came by it.

The 5 inch 627 six shot full underlug guns are hard to find here. The are not marked Target Champion, though.

Buy the 5 inch gun if you want rare. There were ab out 5400 627-0 guns made and they show up once in a while. The -0 has the checkered top straps and are the last ones to have this feature, except maybe the 627-1, which is also very hard to find. I have never seen one to determine if the top strap is checkered.
 
The top revolver is product code 101024. That is a 627 that was made beginning with no engineering revisions and ending with the -2 engineering revision. 5276 of product code 101024 were manufactured across the four engineering revisions. The -0 is the most common variation of this product code while the -2 is the rarest.

The example in your photographs is quite obviously a -0 engineering revision. The example in the photograph has the longer stop notches that were introduced at the -0 revision but is clearly not a Drilled and Tapped frame which is the change that occurred at the -1 engineering revision

The second revolver is a WHISCO Exclusive offering, most likely the second revolver is product code 101030. This was a specal run for a German Distributor. Quantities are unknown on this firearm however it is a much smaller number of pieces than the first revovler.

You are correct, the first revolver has a 5 1/2" barrel while the second revolver is a 5" barrel. You have a good eye to notice the 1/2" shorter barrel in photographs.

It is harder to tell the engineering revision of the second revolver without a view of the top-strap. It is definitely a -0 or beyond since it has the long stop notches. Since it is wearing the newer cylinder release I would guess it to be a late -1 engineering revision. It is extremely unlikely that the second gun would be a -2 engineering revision since it is not built on the CNC milled frame

It was mentioned as to whether these are 6 shot or 8 shot. It is obvious from the photos that these are both 6 shot revolvers. If they were the newer 8 shot design there would be more stop notches visible in the cylinder.

You would be hard pressed to go wrong with either firearm. Both were manufactured in the same era at Smith and Wesson

I have been shooting a -1 engineering revision of product code 101024 for many, many years now and it would be very hard to give it up

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The lower one is a 5 inch 627-2, may have a CCU xxxx serial number. ... .
I've seen some CCU guns and they were 5-inch -2's, product code 148218. They shipped in August of 1998 and were marked with the normal inscriptions on both sides of the barrel but the writing was in cursive. (That is, they were not marked Target Champion).
 
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#2 would be my choice!
I bought a 6inch 627-3 "Target champion" (mint condition) from a Danish dealer in April and been in love since...


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Wow, I see a lot of knowledge is gathered here.
Thank you for the information.
The Magnum Rill indicates that the weapon was heavily used? Or what do you think?
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An yes, it is sold in Germany, could be a problem or a long way to reimport.
Greetings
 
... that the weapon was heavily used? Or what do you think?....
Looking at the bottom side of the top strap, where the barrel comes thru the frame, the flame cutting there looks minimal. This, to me, would indicate the gun has not had a large number of magnum rounds thru it.
 
Very cool. I like number 2. I never liked the look of the slant cut lug on the 627 so I purchased a 327 trr8 instead. Didn't know there was a full lug option. Is this still possible today to purchase the 627 like this?

You don't like the look of the 627, but you like the look of the TRR8? :eek::D
 
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