627PC or Older 27?

[Cirrus]

I put this in the newer thread because I'm kind of leaning toward the PC, but I could be swayed. I'm in the market for a big N frame 357 and I'm having a hard time deciding on the two. I've shot the 27 and really like it, but I've never shot the 627PC and I like the look of the PC. I don't have a dedicated purpose for the gun. Just something that I can shoot some hot 357 loads through without worrying about the gun. This would be a 357-only gun. No 38s would be shot with it. Any thoughts or recommendations on the two would be appreciated. Thanks!


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[David Sinko]

I'd go with the 627. As I see it, why have only six in the gun when you can have eight? The 627 I bought is a -5 with the regular contour 4" barrel. If you like the looks of a certain PC barrel, then go for it. I'm not exactly a fan of the newer revolvers but I removed the lock and had a narrow grooved trigger installed, and I'm quite happy with what I have now. If you are uncertain about its intended use, the 4" barrel will be a good compromise. My 627 handles the hottest .357 Magnum loads without any problems and frankly I'm surprised at how comfortable it is to shoot with the heavy loads, though that is probably due to the round and somewhat heavy barrel.

Dave Sinko

 

[Cirrus]

So you have the one with the full lug along the bottom? The ones I'm looking have the angled lug.

I just can't seem to get my head around it. One minute I think I'm ready to buy the 627PC and the next minute I'm doubting it thinking about the classic and timeless look of a blued 27.

 

[David Sinko]

My 627 does not have a full underlug. I don't think they were ever made with a full underlug. It's a regular round barrel without any kind of lug, only a bit thicker. I think of it as the budget model; it was not cut for moonclips and it doesn't have any fancy barrel profile. I don't like flat barrels, angled lugs, half lugs or lugs with holes in them. Just be advised that the barrels of the older six shooters and the newer eight shooters are NOT interchangeable, should you have ideas of buying one and installing another barrel.

Dave Sinko

 

[Jebus35745]

I have both. The 8 shot 627 PC with the contoured bbl is one of my favorites. The 627 is very accurate. It can be used with moon clips or with out. In our clubs modified IDPA shoots, the 8 shots keep up with the 8 shot .45 autos. I'm a blue and wood type person and also like the pre-27's. Good luck, Larry

 

[colt_saa]

I personally love the 27/327/627 family of revolvers no matter if they are the 6 shot variation

or the newer 8 shot. The Performance Center offers us many interesting configurations to choose from.

However if I tell the truth, I bring my 8 shot performance center revolvers to the range about 10 times for each occurrence of bringing a 6 shot. The accuracy of the PC revolvers air gauged match barrels is fantastic and the tensioned Lothar-Walther barrel configuration of the 327s make them just as accurate as the Legendary Dan Wessons that inspired them.

Even side by side it is hard to tell the 6 shot from the 8 shot. These two revolvers were manufactured 32 years apart.

No matter which one you pick, you will regret or wonder about the other. The decision is simple, if you can......buy them both. Take one today and put the other on Lay-A-Way if you have to. Then you won't have to worry. Any member of the 27/327/627 family will hold up just fine to a lifetime of today's full power 357 Magnum ammunition. None of my 357 Magnum revolvers that were purchased new have ever seen a round of 38 Special fired in them.

 

[Shooting4life]

I would get a 627. I love blued guns and have a could of 27's but the stainless guns are just easier to care for. Here are my two 627's a 627-0 and 627pc "blood work"

 

[Cirrus]

I personally love the 27/327/627 family of revolvers no matter if they are the 6 shot variation

or the newer 8 shot. The Performance Center offers us many interesting configurations to choose from.

However if I tell the truth, I bring my 8 shot performance center revolvers to the range about 10 times for each occurrence of bringing a 6 shot. The accuracy of the PC revolvers air gauged match barrels is fantastic and the tensioned Lothar-Walther barrel configuration of the 327s make them just as accurate as the Legendary Dan Wessons that inspired them.

Even side by side it is hard to tell the 6 shot from the 8 shot. These two revolvers were manufactured 32 years apart.

No matter which one you pick, you will regret or wonder about the other. The decision is simple, if you can......buy them both. Take one today and put the other on Lay-A-Way if you have to. Then you won't have to worry. Any member of the 27/327/627 family will hold up just fine to a lifetime of today's full power 357 Magnum ammunition. None of my 357 Magnum revolvers that were purchased new have ever seen a round of 38 Special fired in them.

We have a winner! The 6th photo you posted, tell me about THAT one! It looks completely different from the others I've seen and that one really calls to me. It has just the right amount of classic look mixed with newer features.


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[colt_saa]

We have a winner! The 6th photo you posted, tell me about THAT one! It looks completely different from the others I've seen and that one really calls to me. It has just the right amount of classic look mixed with newer features.


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The 6" 627 Hunter , product code 170102 pictured, is a GREAT revolver.

It was a distributor exclusive offering in 1998. Product code 170095 is an almost identical revolver that was an exclusive for a different distributor. So both would have unique exclusive offerings 170095 has a fluted cylinder.

Mine is not wearing the original factory supplied grips. I prefer the older factory Combat stocks and often put then on firearms that I shoot on a regualr basis.

As can be expected, these revolvers are muzzle heavy. The cool part is that there is a hidden weight system in the under lug. The revolvers are shipped with 5 weights and 5 spacers allowing the user to vary weight and balance of the firearm according to individual taste.

If I recall correctly, 200 of 170102 were manufactured. I do not know how many of 170095 were made, but I would bet it is 200-300. Additionally two prototype 7 1/2" versions of the revolver were created. Smithnut has one of them and perhaps we will get an image if he notices this thread.

These will be hard to find. I have never met an owner of one that wanted to part with it. MSRP on 170102 was $1025 in 1998.

 

[old bear]

Any decent quality M 27 is getting harder to find and more expensive to boot. As good as the new guns are, they will never be in the same class as the classic P&R N frames.

So get the M-27..

 

[Cirrus]

The 6" 627 Hunter , product code 170102 pictured, is a GREAT revolver.

It was a distributor exclusive offering in 1998. Product code 170095 is an almost identical revolver that was an exclusive for a different distributor. So both would have unique exclusive offerings 170095 has a fluted cylinder.

Mine is not wearing the original factory supplied grips. I prefer the older factory Combat stocks and often put then on firearms that I shoot on a regualr basis.

As can be expected, these revolvers are muzzle heavy. The cool part is that there is a hidden weight system in the under lug. The revolvers are shipped with 5 weights and 5 spacers allowing the user to vary weight and balance of the firearm according to individual taste.

If I recall correctly, 200 of 170102 were manufactured. I do not know how many of 170095 were made, but I would bet it is 200-300. Additionally two prototype 7 1/2" versions of the revolver were created. Smithnut has one of them and perhaps we will get an image if he notices this thread.

These will be hard to find. I have never met an owner of one that wanted to part with it. MSRP on 170102 was $1025 in 1998.

Great information. Bummer to hear about their scarcity. It seems like I have taste for things difficult to find. I like the integrate scope base. I'd had thoughts in the past about a reflex/holo sight on a hunting revolver that could be easily taken off for general fun shooting. That gun would have been perfect. I will keep my eye out for one, but better be looking for an alternate.


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[357 guy]

I have a 627 PC. Love it. It is my one gun keeper.

 

[Tom C]

My 27-2 is my first handgun, but I prefer stainless, so my 627PC gets shot a lot more.

 

[Nightowl]

Get the 27 first as they are not making any more. When you can afford it, you can then go for the 627. You know you will want one anyway!!

 

[stevieboy]

I own a 27. It's no safe queen, I shoot it often and it's among my favorites. That said, I would LOVE to have a 627. I've fired one (at the S & W Range in Springfield) and it's a superb piece, beautifully balanced, accurate, and the 8-shot capacity is icing on the cake. Indeed, the 8-shot 627 has an advantage over the older 27 in that the da trigger stroke on the modern gun is noticeably shorter than on the old 27. Throw in the fact that the 627 -- at least the PC 627 -- is cut for moonclips and I'd say it's the perfect large frame revolver.

 

[Cirrus]

How about this one: 627PC or 627 V-Comp?


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[.357magger]

I own a 27. It's no safe queen, I shoot it often and it's among my favorites. That said, I would LOVE to have a 627. I've fired one (at the S & W Range in Springfield) and it's a superb piece, beautifully balanced, accurate, and the 8-shot capacity is icing on the cake. Indeed, the 8-shot 627 has an advantage over the older 27 in that the da trigger stroke on the modern gun is noticeably shorter than on the old 27. Throw in the fact that the 627 -- at least the PC 627 -- is cut for moonclips and I'd say it's the perfect large frame revolver.

Ding, Ding, Ding...WINNER !!!!

Have been having a case of "lack-o-pnr-itis" of late but...EVERY time I think of parting with my 627PC UDR I take it out, look at it, hold it, dry fire it (or live fire it) and there go any thoughts of trading or selling it. And its not even my prime defensive revolver (7 shot 686 is that role at the moment) but it is a superbly built revolver and imo the equal to ANY that Smith has put out in the last 60 years or so. Including pre 27's, 27's, 27's 1 and/or 2's, 27-3's, etc. And I've owned several P&R 27's over the years. The "short stroke" pull of the 8 shooters is a unique cadence to shoot well but having much more power and every capacity of a 1911 is something to think about. And hold onto. ANd to top it all off, the darn thing is one of the most accurate Smith's I've EVER shot.

Just my .02 and I'll probably find a 27-2 one of these days, a beater to well...beat, but that 627 is a true keeper imo. YMMV and almost certainly will.

 

[nawilson]

I hate you guys! As soon as I think I've scratched the 357 itch, you go and put up pictures of your beautiful revolvers, and I just want another... and another. Oh well, I guess there are worse problems to have.

For what little it is worth, if funds are an issue, the 627 Pro Series is a nice gun, too. I don't suppose it is quite as nice as a PC gun, but for what you get, it is a good deal.

 

[Cirrus]

No, funds are not an issue right now. I would rather get what I want right off the bat.

Now I'm trying to figure out if I like the 627PC or the 627 V-Comp more.


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[Cirrus]

Alright, now I'm on the fence again. I was just about set on the 627PC....then I talked to my old man about it. He made fun of me for wanting a .357. He's a .44 Mag man and he says I need the 629PC for more power. He says I should get the .44, especially if I wanted to carry the gun with me deer season.

But I've never enjoyed shooting .44 mags. It's just a little too much recoil to be enjoyable to me. For a hunting pistol only, it would be okay. But I don't want to spend the money on a PC gun and only shoot once a year before deer season. I just can't figure out if I should toughen up and get used to shooting a .44 mag more or if I should go with a caliber I know I enjoy and just be more cautious with shot placement if I decide to take the 627 hunting. Anyone have any advice?

 

[colt_saa]

Alright, now I'm on the fence again. I was just about set on the 627PC....then I talked to my old man about it. He made fun of me for wanting a .357. He's a .44 Mag man and he says I need the 629PC for more power. He says I should get the .44, especially if I wanted to carry the gun with me deer season.

But I've never enjoyed shooting .44 mags. It's just a little too much recoil to be enjoyable to me. For a hunting pistol only, it would be okay. But I don't want to spend the money on a PC gun and only shoot once a year before deer season. I just can't figure out if I should toughen up and get used to shooting a .44 mag more or if I should go with a caliber I know I enjoy and just be more cautious with shot placement if I decide to take the 627 hunting. Anyone have any advice?

Buy what makes You happy, not what someone else thinks you should own.

Many deer have fallen to the 357 Magnum

 

[Joe in SC]

I'd go for an older gun. As time goes by they will continue to increase in price and will eventually all end up in the hands of folks who will refuse to part with them. The quality and craftsmanship is better. I hate to say it but the new S&W's that I've handled and shot can't compare with the older models. Get a good 27 while you can. You can always pick up a new gun later if you happen to still want it.

 

[Cirrus]

Buy what makes You happy, not what someone else thinks you should own.

Many deer have fallen to the 357 Magnum

I understand what you're saying. And I tend to give the same advice to others who pose the same kind of questions on forums. But this is my old man we are talking. I hold his opinion very high and he's always given me good advice. This reminds me of when I was little, we were both big into ATVs. I would always want to play it safe a ride the smaller bikes and dad was always pushing me to ride the bigger, faster bikes. I would muster up the courage and try the bigger bikes and was always glad I did in the end. For some reason, this situation reminds me so much of those times.


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[redbos]

I dont own a M627, but have shoot them. They are nice shooters of course.

having said that, I am bias because all I like are older, nice blued S&W's. I own several 27's . I just think they are a great gun, all the way around.
I am not saying the 627 is not, just my preference.
If you wanted to save a few bucks and still have a winner( in my opinion) look for a nice Highway Patrolman, I love my 28-2's........

 

[PotShotter]

I put this in the newer thread because I'm kind of leaning toward the PC, but I could be swayed. I'm in the market for a big N frame 357 and I'm having a hard time deciding on the two. I've shot the 27 and really like it, but I've never shot the 627PC and I like the look of the PC. I don't have a dedicated purpose for the gun. Just something that I can shoot some hot 357 loads through without worrying about the gun. This would be a 357-only gun. No 38s would be shot with it. Any thoughts or recommendations on the two would be appreciated. Thanks!

Just do it!

I have a 627PC and it has now become my favorite handgun to shoot - super accurate, fantastic trigger, great looking and 8 shots of .357 to boot!

Worth the extra $'s in my opinion.

If someone were to invade my home at night it is (now) the gun that I would reach for (along with my Howard Leight Electronic Earmuffs - I'll let the burgler be the one who goes deaf which is probably going to be the least of his resulting health issues )

Bob

 

[Cirrus]

Well, I found a shop that has a NIB 627 V-Comp for $1300 +$25 shipping +$15 transfer fee, so I'd be in for $1340 total. Buds has the 627PC for $960 with free shipping and $15 transfer fee, so $975 total. So for $365 difference, I think the V-Comp just isn't worth that much more than the PC.


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[PotShotter]

Personally I would still stay away from the V-Comp version if I were buying this revolver over again.

I like to get my pistols "showroom clean" again each time after shooting them and I have enough trouble with my 627 PC in that regard (although I don't really regard this as a tedious chore).

But that "compensator" attachment at the end of the V-Comp barrel must be an absolute dog especially if you are a clean freak like me.

I also haven't really seen the need for it myself except for looking good in "photo shoots" (and I also heard that many V-Comp owners actually remove them to avoid cleaning it).

 

[.357magger]

A) Buy THIS

B) Invite your Dad to shoot it with 125 grainer .357 mags

C) Enjoy for life.



I've owned LOTS of .357's over the years, 27's, pre 27's , 28's (nope, never a Reg Mag, too rich for my blood/wallet) and this lil ole PC blaster is one of the finest items Smith has produced in years imo. VERY smooth trigger, waaaay more accurate than I can hold it, and if 8 rounds of .357 flamethrower action in rapid succession doesn't float your boat...er...check your pulse.

 

[Cirrus]

Well, I just bought a 627-5 Performance Center that another member posted for sale in the classifieds section here. I paid the $850 that he asked, which included shipping. My FFL will do the transfer for $15 so I will have $865 in the gun. I hope the condition is as good as I'm expecting it to be. It came with the aluminum performance center case, two sets of grips, and moon clips. I will post some pictures as soon as I can. I'm anxious to see this thing in person.

 

[sqhead]

hello cirrus,your gonna be happy,after reading your last post ,i had to look at it again,there is not a flaw on it,you will be happy