8 shot revolver thread...

Good morning gentlemen,
I hope this might be the right thread where to post and my question is not too stupid. My first revolver is a 686 4" , that I bought on an instinctive basis, feeling it fitting my hand as a glove. It was intended primarily for home defense, but I love shooting it at the range where it shows to be accurate and reliable.
Wishing a second revolver, I thought an 8 shots 5" barrel would have been the right choice, offering a bit more fun at the range while remaining easily manageable.
I really liked the 327 TRR8, but several reputable dealers strongly advised me against it, reporting intolerable recoil and a flimsy, unreliable structure unsuitable for the range.
I thought its weight would have made it easier to handle and still very manageable with the 38 spl. ammo I mainly use and that some 50 rounds monthly as a second handgun would have not put it in danger.
Although driving far away from my region, I finally had the nice opportunity to hold (although not to shoot..) and compare side by side the 627 PC, both 4" and 5", the 327 TRR8 and the 686 (although not 8 shots) of the same barrel length.
I found the grips more a less all the same, a bit shorter with less room for the little finger than in my 686, but still very comfortable. I felt the 627 4" a bit clumsy, the 5" extremely well balanced but a bit heavy and the 686 very close to what I already own.
The 327 seemed to me beautifully balanced and easy to hold even with a single hand, so that I happily bought it, but had to return it due to the weird occurrence I elsewhere reported.
Being not in a hurry, I could order any model at my LGD and easily wait for it to arrive.
On the one hand , the hearts wants what it wants , but on the other hand I'm really wondering whether the destiny ( or any equivalent as you might call it) is clearly telling me I don't have to buy a 327 , but rather shift to the 627.
Any advise and considerations?

I guess it all depends on what you want...

I will say that I'd describe the 627 4" as anything but "clumsy" though...and if you don't like the 4", I'm surprised you like the 327 with its 2" barrel.

If you want a range pistol...I'd strongly advise against the 327, it just isn't the purpose of that firearm. If you want to carry, or better use for home defense, I think the 327 is definitely the best fit. Like I said, it should be based on what you plan to do with the thing.

Me? I wanted a range pistol. I sat down the 627 PC, and the shorter Pro, the longer barrel on the PC just wasn't my bag. In the end, I chose the pro. I had it reworked by a local smith and once I got the trigger right, I popped on different grips and a red dot. Thousands of rounds later, I feel my 627 is one of the finest shooting firearms I've ever owned.

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I guess it all depends on what you want...

I will say that I'd describe the 627 4" as anything but "clumsy" though...and if you don't like the 4", I'm surprised you like the 327 with its 2" barrel.
He is not referring to the 2" Pug Nosed 327

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He is referring to the 5" Model 327 TRR8

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Totally Different Firearms
 
He is referring to the 5" Model 327 TRR8

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I don't know if you have one or not, but I was wondering. That rear sight blade (slider) looks extremely tall, maybe a .160
I wonder if it's sighted in for shooting 6 O'clock Hold? Just like on my PC 27-8, that would be the first thing on that gun I would have to change. I would throw a white outline .146 in there, or maybe buy a taller front sight if they offer one.
 
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I don't know if you have one or not, but I was wondering. That rear sight blade (slider) looks extremely tall, maybe a .160
I wonder if it's sighted in for shooting 6 O'clock Hold? Just like on my PC 27-8, that would be the first thing on that gun I would have to change. I would throw a white outline .146 in there, or maybe buy a taller front sight if they offer one.
The firearms pictured are my personal property

That revolver is one of the very rare two tone, Model 327 TRR8s, product code 170298.

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That rear sight properly matches the revolver's McGivern bead front sight and is adjusted for a dead on hold.

Replacement rear sight blades are available for the N-frame revolver in heights up to .196
 
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I just put a .160 white outline blade on my 327 hoping it would clear the top rail when installed. Mine came with a white dot front and V-notch rear. Difficult to see even with the rail removed.
Pic shown as rear sight set way too high! I haven't had the time with my other experiments to "sight it in".
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Could you elaborate on it being more demanding?
Thank you for your attention and apologies for not being able to better explain my feelings. Saying my 627-5 PC 5" is more demanding to shoot than expected just came out from my mind without a definite technical support.
I mean I imagined that shooting a PC, top class revolver, could provide easier and better results to me.
It was not. The gun is clearly accurate, reliable and well balanced, but it requires me to apply a greater effort and concentration to achieve scores as I get more easily and instinctively with my 686 4".
Maybe it's the weight, maybe the front sight brass dot potentially deceiving on different lights, or the trigger so differently sensible, or maybe recoil that – albeit definitely manageable – bites slightly more due to the uncovered back strap.
Maybe it's just I don't have enough experience so far with it, like driving a Shelby or a Corvette requires specific abilities and training to get the best of their performance.
Just thinking out loud..
 
Here are a couple of recent pictures of mine. I don't mind that my ejector rod is getting the bluing worn
off a little. Better me than the next owner (after I die and my wife sells it for next to
nothing). I figure if he is going to get it for next to nothing, it ll be coming with some wear and tear.
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WOW< Love those grips...
 
Okay so I have made the statement that my 5 inch model 27-8 is probably the only carbon steel 8 shot Model 27 in Europe. I was wrong.
I just found a 3 1/2" Model 27-8 that's been DEACTIVATED and is for sale in the UK.... Unbelievable, I know.
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Not to hijack, but I thought this might fit here better than anyplace else.
I don't see these for sale very often, so thought I'd share. Reserve finally met yesterday, here's a closed GB auction for 4" M27-7:
https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/747763680

In the ad it states that it's one of 50 produced. Bangers ordered 100 of each barrel length (4 and 6 1/2 inch) not 50... However, I have been known to be wrong.
 
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I have a question/observation about the SCSW 4th in the 27-8 section at the end of the description it gives a couple mysterious product codes to me. What about the others, has anyone seen one of those 8 3/4 inch 8 shots? It talks about bright blue and blue too. Any input?
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I have a question/observation about the SCSW 4th. In the Performance Center chapter under the 27-7 it gives 2 product codes only for blued guns. It doesn't mention any nickel guns and I am pretty sure they made 100 of the 4 inch and 100 of the 6 1/2 inch for Bangers in nickel as well. So going on to the 27-8 section at the end of the description it gives quite a few mysterious product codes to me. 170310 and 170311 could be model 27-7s (the nickel 4 and 6 1/2 inch 8 shot product codes). Then again, the 4 inch and 6 1/2 inch blue product codes are different than what the Bangers blue product codes are. What about the others, has anyone seen one of those 8 3/4 inch 8 shots? It talks about bright blue and blue too. Any input?
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Just because a SKU was assigned, does not mean revolvers were produced.

Bangers only produced 2 of the variations they had originally contracted for, both were blue. I do not know what the issue was that split Bangers and S&W apart, but none of the other revolvers were ever produced.

So far there have only been 6 variations of carbons steel, 8 shot, Model 27s manufactured by Smith and Wesson. Two came from Bangers and 4 came from Lew Horton

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Here is one of each variation. All 6 revolvers in this photo bear the same serial number with different prefixes.
 
Thanks, I realized after I had posted that about the nickel Bangers 4 and 6 1/2" that they never made them. Just wasn't sure about the product codes under the 27-8 section that aren't 170271, 170272, 170308 and 170309 (because those were produced for Lew Horton). That 8 3/4" product code caught my eye and don't ever remember seeing one.
 
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