Jesus Mary and Joseph, The guy is simply asking some info on a carry weapon. some say 9mm some 40S&W (i say 40 S&W). he is looking for adise from members on this forum
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Jesus Mary and Joseph, The guy is simply asking some info on a carry weapon. some say 9mm some 40S&W (i say 40 S&W). he is looking for adise from members on this forum
DrewW
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If you are considering a .40 but don't like the recoil the M&P is a great choice of all the .40s I have shot it seems to recoil the least. The biggest thing to me is the way that .40s they seem to be a whole lot snappier in their recoil than either the 9s or 45s which both exhibit more of a push type recoil to me where the 40 is more of a quick snap.
For me the M&P 40 seemed right, I seem to be better adapted to getting back on target with the snappy recoil than the push of the other guns but that is all dependent on the individual.
For me the M&P 40 seemed right, I seem to be better adapted to getting back on target with the snappy recoil than the push of the other guns but that is all dependent on the individual.
I carried my BG380 last nite to the hockey game and again this morning to church... Put the 380 in the vault when I got home and put the M&P45 next to me watching tv and next to the nite stand when I went to bed....think I'll carry the 40c the rest of the day.... yard work, dinner at Mom's, watching the football game....... etc... I like all the calibers for different situations.. I bought my M&P40fs as my first purchase, the 9mm Storm Lake barrel shortly there after, then the M&P9c for the wife, " that was just an excuse to get the 9c" then the M&P45 when I got hot for one and lastly after playing and carrying all of them, I settled on the M&P40c... it just felt really good in my hand, I shot it very well and the bottom line I felt totally comfortable with a great IWB Crossbreed Supertuck holster... The beauty of the 40's is you can buy the 9mm barrels but if you buy a 9, you can't buy a 40 barrel.
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and i did on post #25. Thank you.
Well, I have read a lot of posts here, and be forewarned that some people believe if the barrel isn't manufactured by Storm there's no way it will work, but I've read far too many problems people have with Storm barrels to ever want to try one for myself!
I don't think the breech face difference is anything to worry about if you are using the 9mm at the range and using the factory .40 barrel for self defense. Remember, the Storm conversion barrel does nothing for the breech face or extractor either.
Midway sells factory S&W barrels for $65 and sometimes has them on sale for as low as $58.
Here is a great write up by SWMod10 with pictures and measurements. He even used the factory .40 magazine and it performed flawlessly except the last shell doesn't feed due to the follower engaging the slide stop.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-pistols/170963-test-9mm-factory-barrel-m-p-40-a.html
Unfortunately I expect to get a lot of grief about the perils of using the factory 9mm barrel in a .40. That's the nature of some of our posters. Try to read past the negativity and see the facts for yourself. I personally have not tried the 9mm in my .40, I just bought a new 9mm.
I would not hesitate to use a 9mm barrel in my .40 though. Not one second. 
I beg to Differ Sir, The original post from USMCDEVILDOGG advised that he was "torn between the 9 and 40" and was asking for comment/concerns for either weapon. You answered a question from Lanxandreads regarging dropping a 9mm into a 40 slide. Actually you offered NO comments/concerns regarding his question Nice try though
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Ok, The price/savings is so minimal in the two calibers. A quick search yielded the following results\
SGAMMO 500rnds 40cal Rem Ball 165 grain $129.90
500rnds 9mm Rem Ball 147 grain $119.50 $10.40 diff
500 rnds 9mm Win Ranger 127 gr +p $239.50
500 rnds 40 Win Ranger 165 grain $245.00 $5.50Diff
That was just one web site Ammo to go usually has some great deals as well.
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If you are going to gather facts at least be objective. 1000 rounds of 165 grain .40 cal are $247.95. 1000 rounds of 9mm Lawman are $197.95. That is a $50.00 difference, $50.00 per thousand is not minimal if you are serious about training and shooting a lot.
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Jesus Mary and Joseph, The guy is simply asking some info on a carry weapon and you insist on busting everone elses balls!
You are right, I did not actually express an opinion, and truth be told I have absolutely no concern on which he actually buys. Simply a link to a site that offers an OPTION of having both! ..but it is in fact a comment, thats what posts are in a forum.. comments.. just like this one.
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No Ball busting here brother. Its obvious the original post is looking for some info on Guns. Right? maybe, Just maybe he is not as expierenced as the others on this forum. That is WHY he is asking questions and looking for answers, and as fellow forum members I think its out obligation to offer our insight (and expierence) and to ANSWER his question. Not to offer him another Forum to go to. He choose this forum for answers. Ya, maybe you dont care what he buys or as you put it "I have absolutley no concern" on which he actually buys. Well I do have a concern, I would like to think I am offering some info when asked a question that is helpful and useful. Maybe we are here to giude others that are not a knowledgeable as we are, Ya, I think thats why people ask questions. I dont know a heck of alot about football,But my Brother does so when I have a question I ask him. And ya Know what, (this is crazy) he gives me an ANSWER or EXPLAIN's what i need to know. He DOES NOT send me somewhere else or DOES NOT tell me to ask someone else.
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I've always wanted to try a Hi-point just to see out of curiosity if they are really that bad. People said similar things about the Sigma, but it's actually one of my favorite guns to shoot.
This has nothing to do with the subject of this thread and away I go!
This has nothing to do with the subject of this thread and away I go!
I used to say that there was one Hi Point that actually stood up to shooting our IDPA club matches, but a thumb-sized chunk broke out of his slide last Nov, so I guess not too sturdy in the long haul..........
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Ruger Nut
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We haven't heard from USMCDevilDogg since this post started.I wonder if he has made his mind up on which to buy?
After reading some of these responses,they make me want to go out and buy a Red Ryder bb gun.
After reading some of these responses,they make me want to go out and buy a Red Ryder bb gun.
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USMCDevilDogg
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Thanx for all the responses. After reading all the post will helpful advice I've been looking for a 40 because you change change out the barrel to a 9mm. I think I read that correct. Money isn't an issue because I'm a firm believer- you get what you pay for. I want to purchase a pistol that I know I'll be happy with and wont regret. With that said, Thanx again for everyone who gave me useful advice.
Ruger Nut
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Did you ever go out and try both to see how they feel? That is a good idea,to buy the .40 and the drop in 9mm barrel.
Now,if i could only find a Red Ryder with a laser on it........
Ruger Nut
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Make sure to take plenty of pics.We get all hot and bothered around here when we see new gun porn!
~LOL... I always read these ammo threads because I enjoy the opinions. Then I take stock of what I have... I have 9mm guns in the house (along with a double 20 gauge). I have 380 guns in my cars. I don't leave home without my P32 in my hip pocket. In all three cases I have complete confidence in my guns, my ammo and my shooting skills to defend myself and family. For fun shooting I have several 22lr target pistols...now there's truly cheap ammo.
I guess my "opinion" on the topic is, the gun is only as good as the ammo it's shooting and skill of the shooter.
I guess my "opinion" on the topic is, the gun is only as good as the ammo it's shooting and skill of the shooter.
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well, it turns out he is going with the 40 and getting the 9mm conversion barrel.. and guess what?! There's already a post in the thread he started to a very informative link of a company that makes the barrel and how it works! Hmm.. who put that link there.
Glad I was a great help!
Houdini1953
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Well although I own (4) 9 millimeters (2) Smith and Wesson's a M&P9 and a Model 59 a Keltec PF9 and a Glock 26 I have ordered a M&P 40 from my local gun store and it should be in by Wednesday so I will now have two M&P's and one other Smith & Wesson.
I shoot my S&W's much better and today I shot my Model 59 for the first time in over a year and even though the shots were not the best they are above average and grouped quite well (it has almost a hair trigger)!
I shoot my S&W's much better and today I shot my Model 59 for the first time in over a year and even though the shots were not the best they are above average and grouped quite well (it has almost a hair trigger)!
S&W makes the barrel. A stock S&W 9mm fits just as well (some say BETTER ) than any aftermarket conversion barrel. S&W makes tens of thousands of 9mm barrels every year, you know they will be cheaper than a company that makes a couple hundred.
There's some great threads here where guys swap stock M&P 9mm barrels into their .40's and document the results. One thread shows micrometer readings of all critical measurements.
I have asked several times for anyone that has ever had a problem with an M&P 9mm barrel in a .40 and so far I haven't heard of a problem. There are several threads about Storm conversion barrel problems though. For $60 - $65 I'd go with the stock S&W barrel.
Deadeye Dick
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Good choice! I bought my M&P in .40cal. also and for two reasons. 1) Because I already had a 9mm. 2) Back just before the last Presidential election when there was a huge run on guns and ammo and most defense caliber ammo was hard to find anywhere, my local Wally-World had plenty of .40S&W in several varieties on the shelves.
I don't think you will have any regrets, I don't. Go and enjoy your new .40. Have fun and be safe.
See, was that so difficult? you helped him out.
