9mm EZ with Red dot sight?
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Velle
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Either have the slide milled or this. Red Dot Adapter/Mount for Smith & Wesson(R) M&P Pistol
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I'm trying to do the same thing
I'm asking around now for shops that can mill the 9mm EZ slide for a micro red dot (J-Point/Shield RMS, or something similar). I have a Trijicon RMR on my 2.0 9mm Compact, and my wife tried it the other day and fell in love with the dot, so I'm looking to get her EZ slide milled now.
You can also try an adapter plate as mentioned above - I have one from Evolution Gun Works (EGW) coming in the mail now - and that may suffice. If not, I'm cast feelers out to the following milling shops:
I'll update this post if/when I find a shop that candors the milling and refinish the slide with a black nitride, diamond like coating (DLC), or melanite, so it will appear stock.
I'm asking around now for shops that can mill the 9mm EZ slide for a micro red dot (J-Point/Shield RMS, or something similar). I have a Trijicon RMR on my 2.0 9mm Compact, and my wife tried it the other day and fell in love with the dot, so I'm looking to get her EZ slide milled now.
You can also try an adapter plate as mentioned above - I have one from Evolution Gun Works (EGW) coming in the mail now - and that may suffice. If not, I'm cast feelers out to the following milling shops:
- Templar Customs: They can do the milling, but they Cerakote instead of refinishing with Nitride or Melonite, so it won't look stock when done, if you care.
- Primary Machine: They will need to see the slide first, which tells me they haven't done an EZ slide yet.
- Agency Arms (they did my RMR cut): no answer yet
- Maple Leaf Firearms: no answer yet
- Bowie Customs: no answer yet
- Mod1 Firearms: no answer yet
- And I'm still looking for other shops...
I'll update this post if/when I find a shop that candors the milling and refinish the slide with a black nitride, diamond like coating (DLC), or melanite, so it will appear stock.
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I just wonder how well one would cycle with the added weight of an RMR? The springs in the EZs are pretty light. I'm not saying it wouldn't - just curious if it'd cause any issues?
I had my Shield 9mm 2.0 slide milled by SAS tactical. It was very reasonably priced and the work was very good. There is a usually a pretty long wait for job likes this with most shops. So that is one consideration. Also not sure of the room your performance center has for the red dot on your slide, but with my Shield there wasn't enough room to mill it out and keep the dovetail. So the red dot I picked has a cutout for co- witness. I'm really happy with the results. In fact with how my eyes are now, I will probably not buy anymore non-revolvers without a red dot. I'm currently looking for a 1911 with one.
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I had to be reminded of this, but the slides on the M&Ps are stainless.
I did the red dot thing both with a dovetail adapter and after trying it out, had the slide milled. If you're gonna use the piece for serious work you desperately need irons. The dots are great for longer ranges and with a lot of practice, just as fast as irons. BUT, you might not have time to find the dot. The average self defense distance is 5 yards. Extremes are 2 & 27 yards. This is per a statistically valid database.
I did the red dot thing both with a dovetail adapter and after trying it out, had the slide milled. If you're gonna use the piece for serious work you desperately need irons. The dots are great for longer ranges and with a lot of practice, just as fast as irons. BUT, you might not have time to find the dot. The average self defense distance is 5 yards. Extremes are 2 & 27 yards. This is per a statistically valid database.
OP—The milling of your slide will remove weight almost proportional to the weight of the red dot sight if you get a small one, like the Shield RMSc. Reliability of slide function probably won't be an issue, but adjusting recoil springs could overcome that.
Using other gimmicks to mount an RDS are second rate solutions that place the RDS too high above the bore and almost always eliminate the mounting of co-witnessed back up iron sights.
The window of a milled RDS serves as an aid to close range (point) shooting inside of 5 yards. If you can see your target in the window, fire.
However, when you learn to use a red dot properly, if you present your gun at eye level where you could see the iron sights, you will see the dot. Learning good consistent presentation is the key. If you have to find and align your irons to take a shot, the red dot will be right there anyway, at whatever range.
If you have good presentation so the dot is always visible in the window, you will be able to shoot fast and accurately no matter the range. Because the dot will place the bullet on target under the dot at any range inside of 20 yards, while you focus on the target and NOT the irons, and the dot can be anywhere inside the window, you have much greater latitude and speed than aligning the target and front and rear irons.
Irons are required on a fighting pistol. By aligning co-witnessed irons you will train yourself to see the dot and learn consistent presentation. After that you will ignore the irons, except if the red dot fails. Then the BACK UP iron sights are useful again, as long as they co-witness with the dot at your chosen range, usually around 10 yards.
Good luck with your project. It's going to cost some coin, but red dots are the sights of now. Notches and posts are the sights of a hundred years ago, no matter how big or colorful. The idea that the human mind and eyes can focus under life-and-death stress on three different planes and shoot well and fast has been disproved. Optics.
Using other gimmicks to mount an RDS are second rate solutions that place the RDS too high above the bore and almost always eliminate the mounting of co-witnessed back up iron sights.
The window of a milled RDS serves as an aid to close range (point) shooting inside of 5 yards. If you can see your target in the window, fire.
However, when you learn to use a red dot properly, if you present your gun at eye level where you could see the iron sights, you will see the dot. Learning good consistent presentation is the key. If you have to find and align your irons to take a shot, the red dot will be right there anyway, at whatever range.
If you have good presentation so the dot is always visible in the window, you will be able to shoot fast and accurately no matter the range. Because the dot will place the bullet on target under the dot at any range inside of 20 yards, while you focus on the target and NOT the irons, and the dot can be anywhere inside the window, you have much greater latitude and speed than aligning the target and front and rear irons.
Irons are required on a fighting pistol. By aligning co-witnessed irons you will train yourself to see the dot and learn consistent presentation. After that you will ignore the irons, except if the red dot fails. Then the BACK UP iron sights are useful again, as long as they co-witness with the dot at your chosen range, usually around 10 yards.
Good luck with your project. It's going to cost some coin, but red dots are the sights of now. Notches and posts are the sights of a hundred years ago, no matter how big or colorful. The idea that the human mind and eyes can focus under life-and-death stress on three different planes and shoot well and fast has been disproved. Optics.
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Why mill when you can just replace the rear sight with an Outer Impact plate and then the RDS of your choice? They have one for small footprint and one for larger. Rock solid and raises the RDS only a slight amount. I now have a Holosun HS507K X2 which replaced the Sig Romeo Zero I had on the plate. Works quite well for me.
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Thanks. Never heard of that.
There are a number of mounting plates that you just remove the rear sight and they slide into the slot. Then add optics. Just Google "Red dot mounting plates for handguns". Many to choose from.
