9mm vs 45. M&P 2.0

Most of what Well Armed has written I would concur with. His observations on wound ballistics are supported by the data in Patrick and Hall "In Defense of Self and Others" and Artwohl and Christensen "Deadly Force Encounters 2ed.
Ballistic gelatin is useful for comparing the performance of various bullets in ballistic gelatin. It is a uniform consistent medium. Mammals are not made of uniform consistent material. Ballistic gelatin performance is not the same as what happens in the human body with layers of fat and muscle and organs and bone that perform nothing like ballistic gelatin.
My opinion is that "Momentum" is more important than Kinetic energy. Back when I was a kid ammo makers listed both momentum and kinetic energy in their ballistic tables. Momentum is conserved, all of the momentum goes into the target doing damage until the bullet stops. Penetration tracks momentum. Kinetic energy is dissipated in many ways, including sound, heat, and tissue damage plus others. Momentum is a linear function of velocity. Kinetic energy tracks the velocity squared
if you increase the velocity of a bullet by 50% you will increase the momentum by 50%; you will increase the kinetic energy by 125%.
As Well Armed pointed out, placement and penetration are the two most critical elements to achieving a fatal hit. I prefer .45 hardball, 9mm JSP, as heavy as I can get, and 32 ACP JSP to 380 JHP. YMMV, particularly for LEOs
 
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I not giving up anything yet , remember that first shot is your best chance to stop a threat and follow shots with ether my full size 40 or 45 are just fine for me so far . I do not find the 9mm to be a necessary change yet so move on . So I'm giving up capacity in your way of thinking ! Really . I'm not a pray & spray shooter and one of my primary drills is 2 to the center of mass and 1 to the head on a cardboard silhouette and staying sharp at hitting 10" steels at 15 yards from the draw and there still a lot of folks that carry and rely on a 5 shot snubby that have LE background so spread you bull in there direction . I've only been doing this for 37 years and walk and stalk hunting hogs for 10 more years . Some follow up shots are at hogs running at Me and it takes for less time for a 150lb plus boar to move 15 to 20 yards in my direction . Feels more like the 21 foot drill .

Using Heinz data one reason I like the 40sw with ether the 155gr gd or 165gr gd at 1300 and 1200fps . To Me recoil and split times are very close to 124gr and 147gr hp 9mm at P+P level from a full size pistol that's what I carry when around larger market areas or on the road . And I do get practice time with a 9mm with a dot optic in case I feel the need for a change one day back not yet .

I don't care what you type any more you care what I type so time to move on ! . The model I starting to carry on the road or in larger citys is a M&P 5" 40sw sku:11825
 
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