A KING SUPER TARGET

You'll have to wear a three piece suit and polish your shoes to fire it if you ever do. Anything less would insult that gorgeous gun.

And the thought of taking a screwdriver or punch to that gives me shakes. You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din.
Congratulations!

Nope, he's supposed to wear a four piece suit with it, coat, pants, vest, and shoulder holster! :D
 
I just thought of something worth knowing by anyone who's inclined to take one of these things apart:

The installed rib is under tension. Remove the elevation adjusting screw first------and the tension is relieved. At that point, the pins at the front come right out with no fuss, no muss, and no bother.

To go after the pins first would be to court disaster----or at least more difficulty than you bargained for. By the same token, the pins go in first when it goes back together----front pin first. With only the front pin installed, the entire rib assembly will pivot about that pin.

At this point (front pin only installed), I don't recall if I then installed the rear screw next or not----seems like I did---and tightened it to the point where the pin punch would slide right in to the aft pin hole. Whatever---anything which requires any force to speak of is the wrong way to do it.

Ralph Tremaine
 
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I figured I'd find out when I took it apart for its welcome bath. I was reading about the rib in an old King catalog---said it was "full floating". I took that to mean it was attached only at front and rear---and had at it.

The front attachment is via the two pins through what's left of the (S&W) front sight. The only alternative at the rear was the elevation adjusting screw was doing double duty---and it was. Off came the rib assembly. There's a great wide chasm (and a notch at the rear) milled in the frame, and the front sight was milled down to a stub to accommodate the pins. The barrel on either side of the front sight had been just kissed by the mill. It didn't occur to me to measure anything at the time (the width of the front sight stub) to compare to the boss on a target model, but it figures they're the same animal. The quick and dirty clue was there were only the (King) pin holes and no blade slot in the boss---and there would have been a third pin hole and a slot if it started life as a target. Comparing the King version to a TLT suggests the installation preparation would be the same on both guns--and they'd have had a head start on the target version---which already has a channel milled in the top and a notch cut at the rear---albeit both smaller than the King versions.

The only hiccup in the disassembly/assembly accompanying the bath arose from the similarity of the King windage adjustment spring and the S&W cylinder stop spring----that and the fact the dummy doing the work wasn't paying close attention. It turned out that the S&W spring can be installed in the King sight---also the sight blade (with some difficulty)----and the sight works. The difficulty in installing the blade was a big clue, but I pressed on regardless. As you might imagine, the King sight spring also fits in place of the S&W cylinder stop spring---fits only---doesn't work. The dawn comes!!

Ralph Tremaine


Took a couple of pics from a King rib I have in the white.
Not sure if its for a Colt or a Smith yet.


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The longer of the several pieces shown above (Post #24) appears to be the spittin' image of the rib on my gun. It is most certainly an unused/perhaps even unfinished piece. The one hole up front is for the sight blade retaining screw. If it's not threaded, then it's a lead pipe cinch it's an unfinished piece. If the top is not grooved, then it's whatever one might call a double lead pipe cinch it's an unfinished piece.

Same church, different pew (sort of)--------I once bought an auction lot of 15-18 single shot barrels (to get three I wanted). One of the remainder was an unfinished 10" 3rd Model barrel (rifled/chambered/no roll stamping)---an Olympic barrel yet. I gave that and a complete/finished 6" .32 caliber 1st Model barrel (and several other barrels in various stages of disrepair) to a friend who had a nice 2nd Model (already a frankengun). He sent the whole mess to Chicoine, who finished the Olympic barrel, and fit it and the .32 barrel to the frame (in exchange for the other barrels), and friend ended up with a very spiffy outfit---free for nothing----and deadly accurate!!

Ralph Tremaine
 
An e-friend of mine who was briefly very active on this forum is currently doing gunsmithing in the mid-West and is working on a recreation of the King's Rib. I can't wait to see the finished product! :D

Froggie
 
As an aside, someone (almost certainly "RKmesa") told me some of his (on guns) have no patent dates----makes sense given you can make/sell your stuff before the patent application is approved.

Ralph Tremaine
 
Great gun I like it ,good story also . As far as the pictures go here is my " theory" ,the dark background doesn't reflect light as much so the light reflected off of the grip is more noticeable therefore making the grip appear lighter . The light background reflects more light so the reflection off the grip appears darker therefore showing color better . If this isn't the reason it should be as it sounded real good when I thought it up I call it the genius theory of light ability .correct or not that is still a great firearm . I know you are a serious collector but do you shoot your firearms often or does it depend on the gun . What's a good rule for which ones to shoot and which o es to just look at . I like the idea of having two of each one for collecting and one to shoot but I stay in the dog house with my " boss lady" over guns enough so that's out for me .
 
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S&WsRsweet's "genius theory of light ability" prompted now 40-50 year old memories of lens openings, shutter speeds, and such like. Then it dawned on me today's digital cameras have to think about the same things we had to---back in "the good old days"----and react accordingly. The only difference now is we can see what we get instantly---instead of waiting to get our pictures/slides back from the film processor. Given the size of the instruction manual for this little camera, which I haven't read yet (other than to find out how to shut the flash off----a MAJOR undertaking), I suspect one can still make their own decisions about such things---and proceed to tap little buttons a certain number of times (AFTER or WHILE holding a little lever----Make that a TINY LITTLE lever this way or that---and end up with whatever floats your boat. As for me, I'm more comfortable with "old fashioned" things----except for the cars. Some (a few) of today's cars are REALLY good!!

I whiled away a portion of my misspent youth as a weekend warrior racing funny little sports cars. Then I stopped. Then I SEVERELY regretted stopping, and started in with a series of boy street racer hot rods----the latest of which is REALLY good. All which proceeded it prompted this reaction from the Boss Lady-----under frisky conditions on the twisty roads: She plants her feet on the "kick-up", braces herself with her right hand/arm against the dash, and her left hand holding on the the arm rest, and utters these now famous words----LOUDLY: "NOW CUT THAT OUT!!!!" Now she just sits there, and says, "Boy!! This thing really goes around corners, doesn't it?!!!" That it does---that it does. The bad news came when I told her I was going to get this new toy. "What kind?" I told her. "What color?" "Red." "You mean like burgundy?" "No, I mean like make your eyeballs bleed RED!!" (All previous were either white or silver.) With that, she places hands on hips, cocks her fanny off to one side, and ANNOUNCES: "YOU----are now----OFFICIALLY---an OLD FART!!" And so it is.

Ralph Tremaine
 
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