A losing Buy, Problems with this S&W Snub .38 spl
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No, but an out of spec yoke could cause binding, end shake, spitting lead, etc. I have no idea if it's possible to repair it in the manner you suggest.
Even if you managed to get it working again, it wouldn't work for long. The gun looks like the parts are made of soft steel with no heat treating/hardening and tempering. Parts that work against each other will wear quickly and not stay in sync long.
I had a Spanish double barrel shotgun with similar internals. Might as well of been made from tin foil. About all it's good for now is a tomato stake.
I had a Spanish double barrel shotgun with similar internals. Might as well of been made from tin foil. About all it's good for now is a tomato stake.
This gun is dangerous to the person firing it.
I think the other people above are trying to tell you that repairing this is probably not possible on your own, and it should be done by a qualified gunsmith, AND most likely not at all.
Most likely this is very old, and may not withstand the use of modern ammunition, even if repaired. The only way to get some of your money back, would be to sell to a local gunsmith for parts, just like an old car that is not worth fixing.
I would NOT fire this gun under any circumstances, even if repaired. Quite possibly, it could injure you, or someone standing next to you, even after being repaired. No money loss is worth that, in any country.
Protocall_Design
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You can tell this is not a Smith by the mainspring support. S&W never made them like that. The yoke crack could be fixed with brazing, but the rest of the gun is toast. It could be made workable by someone with enough talent and passion, but it would soon be back in the same shape with a little use.
Well Guys. Guess you all Right. Thank you all.
I didn't fire this Gun, and i Won't.
Maybe it's a Taurus, Eibar, whatever, with Smith Logo Stamped on it.
Will Sell it for parts (cylinder, Trigger, grips, frame, Etc...) Got it for 600$ will sell it for half that price or less. Money is not important. The important is no one get hurt.
Thanks for all your support.
I didn't fire this Gun, and i Won't.
Maybe it's a Taurus, Eibar, whatever, with Smith Logo Stamped on it.
Will Sell it for parts (cylinder, Trigger, grips, frame, Etc...) Got it for 600$ will sell it for half that price or less. Money is not important. The important is no one get hurt.
Thanks for all your support.
First thing I noticed was the ratchet and pins being wrong. The teeth have changed some over the years, but have never been crescents like that.
sigp220.45
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I have a couple of Rossi revolvers. Even Rossi doesn't stamp the S&W logo on their guns.
I'm pretty sure everyone who has said it was made in a hut somewhere are right.
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Late to the party but agree. The total cost of time and money put into it, you could get another one. Sorry for your loss.
If it does not time right, kaboom. It is very intricate how all the parts work together. You should not try to fix it unless you have done it 100 times.
Even the guys that know how to fix are on this forum and have said it is now garbage.
If it does not time right, kaboom. It is very intricate how all the parts work together. You should not try to fix it unless you have done it 100 times.
Even the guys that know how to fix are on this forum and have said it is now garbage.
I took it to a Local Gunsmith.
He said it's a Rossi (Brazil) with fake stamps.
The ****tiest of them All.
He shows me a Real Model 36, and everything was clear now.
The Rossi can be fixed, with hard work and money.
- the cylinder stop must be replaced.
- the extractor also must be replaced. Filling or welding then refitting or drilling won't solve the problem. At least not for long.
- the Hand should also be replaced. It's the easiest part. He can make it from steel.
- The firing pin is Ok, but not of hardened Steel. Must be replaced. He can make one.
- he can weld the Yoke, but still can't garantee it's not going to be broken again over Time. Better replaced.
- other internal parts - if left hehe - are Ok. the trigger and the return spring, the Main spring.
The bottom Line, the Gun won't be Blown or something when firing. There is no reason for that. but shooting hot Loads is not Recommended. Even if the Rossi was brand new.
Doing me a Favor, he offers 250$ for it.
He said it's a Rossi (Brazil) with fake stamps.
The ****tiest of them All.
He shows me a Real Model 36, and everything was clear now.
The Rossi can be fixed, with hard work and money.
- the cylinder stop must be replaced.
- the extractor also must be replaced. Filling or welding then refitting or drilling won't solve the problem. At least not for long.
- the Hand should also be replaced. It's the easiest part. He can make it from steel.
- The firing pin is Ok, but not of hardened Steel. Must be replaced. He can make one.
- he can weld the Yoke, but still can't garantee it's not going to be broken again over Time. Better replaced.
- other internal parts - if left hehe - are Ok. the trigger and the return spring, the Main spring.
The bottom Line, the Gun won't be Blown or something when firing. There is no reason for that. but shooting hot Loads is not Recommended. Even if the Rossi was brand new.
Doing me a Favor, he offers 250$ for it.
As others have said - that is NOT a S&W but it IS a mess... consider it worn out and purchase a replacement.
I would take the $250 and go looking for a different gun. Let him fix the problems on his own time.
It sounds like your gunsmith is proposing building a new gun inside an old one. Honestly, this makes little sense - unless you ARE the Gunsmith.
If you are doing this because it is a hobby, GREAT! Go for it!
If not:
I have been hit in the face with bits of copper jacket while firing old guns, and I have seen the consequences of a person firing a second round on top of a squib round. I do not recommend the experience.
Don't take this the wrong way - I feel for you, really. My parents came to this country from a place where my father was not even ALLOWED to own firearms, let alone afford one.
I stand by what I said, unless you are tinkering with this gun purely for fun (in which case practical advice does not apply), don't hang on to it, and don't shoot it.
Even if you have the money to make the repairs needed now, it will most likely need more repairs later. Starting in this condition, it will never be completely reliable as a defensive weapon, or for sport.
If you are doing this because it is a hobby, GREAT! Go for it!
If not:
I have been hit in the face with bits of copper jacket while firing old guns, and I have seen the consequences of a person firing a second round on top of a squib round. I do not recommend the experience.
Don't take this the wrong way - I feel for you, really. My parents came to this country from a place where my father was not even ALLOWED to own firearms, let alone afford one.
I stand by what I said, unless you are tinkering with this gun purely for fun (in which case practical advice does not apply), don't hang on to it, and don't shoot it.
Even if you have the money to make the repairs needed now, it will most likely need more repairs later. Starting in this condition, it will never be completely reliable as a defensive weapon, or for sport.
Justin T
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Like Steve Miller sang, "Go on, take the money and run!"
hkcavalier
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So that's what local governments are doing...buybacks of broken guns for $100 and selling them to gunsmiths for $250! Like printing your own money! Genius!
Seeing how I wouldn't pay $5 for this gun, get that $250 and never look back.
Seeing how I wouldn't pay $5 for this gun, get that $250 and never look back.
Just Hang up the phone with the guy a few minutes ago. He kept his word. Tomorrow will be the End of the Nightmare.
He also told me that a guy is Bringing a Dan Wesson Model 14-2 in .357 Magnum for Trade in. If he Get a Good Deal, he will sell it to me in a Fair Price.
Thanks guys for all your sympathy and Help. I really appreciate it.
He also told me that a guy is Bringing a Dan Wesson Model 14-2 in .357 Magnum for Trade in. If he Get a Good Deal, he will sell it to me in a Fair Price.
Thanks guys for all your sympathy and Help. I really appreciate it.
If it's a REAL Dan Wesson, they are fine guns. Hope you can swing it!
