Absolutely Unacceptable

[Jakerin]

I have well over a dozen S&W knives. They're a great knife for the money. It doesn't matter where they were made, because Smith & Wesson receives the profit from the sale. They're an American company.

If you're that worried about it, take a look under the hood of your "American" car. You'll be hard pressed to find anything that was made, and / or assembled in this country.


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Have you got one of these? I can shave with it.

 

[Navy vet]

Best you can do is check for the Made in America tag on it and maybe research the company. I buy all my American Flags at the Ace Hardware down the street from me in my little town. They are made by Valley Forge and proclaimed to be “Made in America by Americans with American Materials.”

I think buying an American Flag made in China kinda defeats the whole purpose. And I buy quite a few of them too. When we moved up here from Southwest Florida, I noticed quite a few of the flags flown by businesses were a little ratty. I started purchasing them and handing them out to the business owners and introducing myself. Great way to break the ice and meet the new town folk. Added plus is driving around and seeing all the new flags blowing proudly in the breeze that I provided.

I got my American Flag from Allegiance. I live on a peninsula so I get 20 mph winds daily. And that is on a calm day. I used to get the various different flags. Of course the "Made in China" ones usually were shredded within 3 months. The Valley Forge lasted a bit longer. But I've had the Allegiance now for 3 years and still looks like new. Not cheap to purchase, but if you are paying 1/4 the price and getting 1/10 of the use is crazy IMHO. I am not associated with Allegiance BTW. Quick AI answer on Allegiance Flags: Question: Are Allegiance really made in America? Yes, Allegiance Flag Supply are 100% made in America. Their supply chain uses domestic materials, is woven and dyed in states like North Carolina and New York, and is hand-sewn by local seamstresses in Charleston, South Carolina.

 

[DonB1950]

Bounced around the tropics for a while, spent a few years in the Middle East, but eventually made it back home.

Thank you brother! For all you have done for us.

 

[Glenn R. McMannly]

There has been Smith and Wesson branded junk for decades now. I used to have a Smith hat made in China.

China merch doesn’t bother me, but shoddy stuff does. Caveat emptor.

I bought a fake Chinese made Benchmade off TikTok for a whopping $10 delivered.

The quality, frankly, is stunning. Smooth action. Rock solid lockup. EXTREMELY sharp out of the box. Has held an edge very well for over a month.

I’ve bought many good items from China. Those people know how to make good products. Some, not all.

 

[sparkyvega]

Election fraud...or do we really keep electing them?

Yeah, but for some reason we just keep reelecting them. Even in a really "bad" year for incumbents 70%-80% will still be reelected!

 

[biku324]

Election fraud...or do we really keep electing them?

Hogwash. Nothing has been more thoroughly investigated. But trust whomever tells you 'rigged elections;' they don't ever start wars 'cause they promised they wouldn't.

There's quite a difference between 'derangement' and clarity.

 

[Denverd0n]

And now it appears that both Amazon and Walmart sell many items that are marked as "Made in America" that, in fact, are NOT made in America.

https://www.fox13news.com/news/study-accuses-amazon-walmart-deceiving-shoppers-false-made-usa-claims

Seriously, you can't get away from it. No matter what you buy nowadays there will ALWAYS be some element of foreign manufacture involved. Which means that some part of what you pay is going overseas, even if indirectly. Like it or not, that's just the global economy in which we live.

 

[phil2707]

China can built good or bad stuff. It's only a problem of "cahier des charges" we say in french. I think it's "spécifications" in english. They got good or bad steel or any métal needed for a knife. One day, they will make weapons, guns and everything... the later the better.
And the biggest fear IMHO is the day they will eat chocolate. Actually, Chinese people eat 100g /person/year.
We eat 7kg in France and 11kg in Switzerland. The day they start eating chocolate, there will not be enough for me and it will be too much expensive of course...
As you can see, i really have serious problems!!

 

[sparkyvega]

Well, at least I'm not fooling myself!

Hogwash. Nothing has been more thoroughly investigated. But trust whomever tells you 'rigged elections;' they don't ever start wars 'cause they promised they wouldn't.

There's quite a difference between 'derangement' and clarity.

 

[MtnGoat]

Election fraud...or do we really keep electing them?

No photo ID, NOT VOTING, PERIOD! Shhh, listen. Hear one party crying fowl?

 

[biku324]

No photo ID, NOT VOTING, PERIOD! Shhh, listen. Hear one party crying fowl?

No - I hear one part of one party crying 'rigged' because of past losses. Never when they win.

So; if a national firearms registry and a national ID card are both illegal and unconstitutional, why is a national voter registry just fine?

 

[Brownie0486]

No - I hear one part of one party crying 'rigged' because of past losses. Never when they win.

So; if a national firearms registry and a national ID card are both illegal and unconstitutional, why is a national voter registry just fine?

Here's why voter reg should be enacted. I don't think we need non citizens voting who runs this country, do you? And we can be guaranteed others states have voter fraud with illegals voting in our elections.

https://www.njspotlightnews.org/202...izens-registered-to-vote-in-nj-sherrill-says/

Not enough to swing an election one might say? Still illegal and being perpetrated on the citizens of the US. Keep the illegals from voting, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[03hemi]

View attachment 900546So we're shopping the other day when this catches my eye. An American flag covered Smith & Wesson knife honoring America's Heroes. I grad one immediately. I flip the package over, as I always do, and am shocked to find a tiny little MADE IN CHINA under the bar code. Now, i'm new to the Forum, but not to Smith & Wesson. I have 20+ Smith revolvers and im proud to own them. This might be it though. Let's celebrate American heroes by sending our money to China. It was around $30. I put it back. If it was $50 and made in America, I would have bought 4 to hand out to people I consider American heroes. Absolutely unacceptable.

Honestly, they're probably better than their current line up of sleeved barrel revolvers though.

 

[Mostly Good]

When it comes to knives, S&W, Browning, Walther, etc. the brand name means nothing. Same goes for many knife brands.
Some are strictly imports, while some brands have different quality, origin, and price point tiers. Buying US made knives is easy with a little effort. Fwiw my edc knife is a Sig branded US made Hogue.
Here's a nice S&W USA made knife for your viewing pleasure.

 

[nll401]

Here's why voter reg should be enacted. I don't think we need non citizens voting who runs this country, do you? And we can be guaranteed others states have voter fraud with illegals voting in our elections.

https://www.njspotlightnews.org/202...izens-registered-to-vote-in-nj-sherrill-says/

Not enough to swing an election one might say? Still illegal and being perpetrated on the citizens of the US. Keep the illegals from voting, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As to non-citizens voting, I have not heard anyone suggest that is good or right. Including those opposed to the current SAVE bill.

But everything in life is a tradeoff. The argument against the SAVE act boils down to 2 things: 1) there has never been enough illegal voting to even come close to swaying an election and 2) the provisions in the SAVE act would make it more difficult for many legal voters to exercise their right to vote. People may disagree about how difficult it will make it but it will make it more difficult.

I don't see an issue with voter ID. But the ID required can't be so restrictive that it unnecessarily excludes too many legal voters. Much has been made online that we require a DL as ID for many daily activities. But a basic DL does not allow you to vote under the SAVE act. Even Texas doesn't not require ID anywhere as restrictive as the SAVE act (https://www.votetexas.gov/voting/need-id.html).

As to a national registry of eligible voters and/or providing voting roles to the federal government, think about it. You are giving every administration the opportunity to choose which voters are eligible to vote. That's like giving the fox the master key to every henhouse.

Personally, I'd love to see an independent forensic analysis of a prior election. But I don't see how it could happen and still maintain the privacy of the voter. However, perhaps we could audit mail ballots to see how many are not really eligible to vote without looking at who they voted for.

I've read the Heritage Foundation paper on illegal voting; it's instructive to note that there were no examples of mass voter fraud - just a number of small cases. And also take a look at charges/convictions for voter fraud in states where the Secretary of State (typically the one responsible for prosecuting voter fraud) is a Republican. I think you'll find relatively few cases.

Real life abhors absolutes. We can't make voting 100% secure without making it very, very difficult for a significant number of legal voters.

 

[CH4]

Several years ago I ran across this clothing label in a thrift store. If this isn't the ULTIMATE irony then I don't know what is!

Conversely, if we’re not careful, we may see a tag that says Communism , Made in America

 

[biku324]

As to non-citizens voting, I have not heard anyone suggest that is good or right. Including those opposed to the current SAVE bill.

But everything in life is a tradeoff. The argument against the SAVE act boils down to 2 things: 1) there has never been enough illegal voting to even come close to swaying an election and 2) the provisions in the SAVE act would make it more difficult for many legal voters to exercise their right to vote. People may disagree about how difficult it will make it but it will make it more difficult.

I don't see an issue with voter ID. But the ID required can't be so restrictive that it unnecessarily excludes too many legal voters. Much has been made online that we require a DL as ID for many daily activities. But a basic DL does not allow you to vote under the SAVE act. Even Texas doesn't not require ID anywhere as restrictive as the SAVE act (https://www.votetexas.gov/voting/need-id.html).

As to a national registry of eligible voters and/or providing voting roles to the federal government, think about it. You are giving every administration the opportunity to choose which voters are eligible to vote. That's like giving the fox the master key to every henhouse.

Personally, I'd love to see an independent forensic analysis of a prior election. But I don't see how it could happen and still maintain the privacy of the voter. However, perhaps we could audit mail ballots to see how many are not really eligible to vote without looking at who they voted for.

I've read the Heritage Foundation paper on illegal voting; it's instructive to note that there were no examples of mass voter fraud - just a number of small cases. And also take a look at charges/convictions for voter fraud in states where the Secretary of State (typically the one responsible for prosecuting voter fraud) is a Republican. I think you'll find relatively few cases.

Real life abhors absolutes. We can't make voting 100% secure without making it very, very difficult for a significant number of legal voters.

New Mexico had a new Republican Secretary of State, Diana Duran, who ran promising to investigate 'rampant' illegal alien voting. She was elected; the followup investigation found 117 registered illegal aliens, nearly all of whom were registered at NM MVD during driver's licensing. Six may have voted.

Secretary Duran later pled guilty to embezzlement in unrelated matters and resigned in disgrace before prison. https://apnews.com/general-news-feff0f68967c475a91f0ad22f6f209fe

The red herring of massive illegal alien voting is clickbait for the gullible.

 

[23669d]

Any form of ID that proves citizenship ( IE passport, birth certificate) should be required. Drivers licenses in most states don’t prove citizenship. A one time registration to prove citizenship should be required. Once registered follow up voting could be with ID that simply proves who you are. (IE drivers lic, college ID etc)

 

[Juan Million]

Kind of disappointing, but nothing new. I have several S&W branded gun rugs - made in China. A set of S&W commemorative pocket knives - made in China. A couple of S&W branded t-shirts - made in Honduras.

I received a NRA hat, made in China. I sent it back.

 

[Brownie0486]

New Mexico had a new Republican Secretary of State, Diana Duran, who ran promising to investigate 'rampant' illegal alien voting. She was elected; the followup investigation found 117 registered illegal aliens, nearly all of whom were registered at NM MVD during driver's licensing. Six may have voted.

Secretary Duran later pled guilty to embezzlement in unrelated matters and resigned in disgrace before prison. https://apnews.com/general-news-feff0f68967c475a91f0ad22f6f209fe

The red herring of massive illegal alien voting is clickbait for the gullible.

Verdicts out on voter fraud being click bait. Until all states like Minnesota, Ca., etc are scrutinized, there's no way one is saying it's not a major problem. I think if Ca. is handing out licenses to truck drivers who are illegal to tune of hundreds of them, people should be very skeptical people being handed licenses in Ca. aren't also voting in elections

 

[VinnieL59]

I thought I had these photos. In front of me on the 800 meter-long bas relief carved by 1150 AD at the Angkor Wat temple complex for Khmer King Suryavarman II is a likeness of Chinese merchants getting their heads bitten off by Khmer (Cambodian) tigers. Nothing is as new as one thinks.

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Gee I thought for a minute there you were going to tell us it was carved with S&W knives! LOL!!!

 

[ladder13]

Of course, no election was ever decided by a few votes.

 

[marinevet]

81 Million votes, and no voter fraud.............

 

[biku324]

81 Million votes, and no voter fraud.............

Prove that every investigation done on the 2020 election was wrong. News flash - no one did, and they tried mightily.

 

[Oldsalt66]

Hogwash. Nothing has been more thoroughly investigated. But trust whomever tells you 'rigged elections;' they don't ever start wars 'cause they promised they wouldn't.

There's quite a difference between 'derangement' and clarity.

"Derangement and clarity" indeed.

And don't get me started about that "phoney" laptop.

 

[ladder13]

Any form of ID that proves citizenship ( IE passport, birth certificate) should be required. Drivers licenses in most states don’t prove citizenship. A one time registration to prove citizenship should be required. Once registered follow up voting could be with ID that simply proves who you are. (IE drivers lic, college ID etc)

Well, in the BIG City, soon one will need an ID just to enter a govt run bodega.

 

[Oldsalt66]

Well, in the BIG City, soon one will need an ID just to enter a govt run bodega.

Those wacky socialists will get it right this time; or next time, or the time after that.

 

[ladder13]

"Derangement and clarity" indeed.

And don't get me started about that "phoney" laptop.

Wait didn’t 50 something “national security experts” from the alphabets swear there was a there there.

 

[Oldsalt66]

81 Million votes, and no voter fraud.............

Most honest election ever.

 

[steelslaver]

Non citizens can get an enhanced Drivers license with the little gold star. I am for showing an ID to vote, but object to needing multiple matching IDs or ID plus birth certificate etc. Stat issued ID should be enough and then if they find that find the ID matches an non citizen, legal or otherwise away they go. Same with felons. But, IF you read the US Constitution the methods of voting were left up to the individual states, unless congress makes changes. Nowhere iss the president given any power over those elections and trying to do so is a direct violation of his oath of office.

Let me ask this, would you be fine with the same ID requirements and a federal list of eligibility to purchase and own firearms? If your not why are you fine with it on you right to vote?

On voter fraud I find itt interesting that the party in power and in control of election security has lost the last e elections, LMFAO

I also find it extremely interesting that the party that is screaming fraud has never protested any of the results for their candidates that won during the very same elections using the same methods that they say had massive fraud. ODD. 62 court fillngs, no actual evidernce presented= 0 victories Go read them everyone of them is a public record. Lots of we believes, but no FACTS