Accidental discharge in Coconut Creek FL Dunkin Donuts

[Trooperdan]

This happened about the 12th of this month, my local paper had very little info and I was wondering if someone local had heard more information, such as the type gun involved and the method of carrying.
A woman was injured but the round bit the injury was apparently minor. The gun owner has a FL CCW but he initially left the scene and turned himself in later. I suspect that isn't going to work out very well in his favor.

 

[ParadiseRoad]

FL man accidentally shoots woman in donut shop after dropping gun (VIDEO)

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[GeoJelly]

I feel sorry for all involved - and this validates my absolute rule of empty chamber outside the house if I'm carrying an auto. I suppose that habit could cost me dearly at some point - I just make it a point to never go where I would need a h/g ... even though I frequently carry one.

Edited to add: a little clarification. Doesn't take a genius to figure out high risk locations: convenience stores in general and especially after dark (even just for fuel), spray car washes after dark, any Wal-Mart on the wrong side of the tracks after 9AM, liquor stores, any mall near the wrong side of the tracks after 4PM, most of the low-end fast food places after dark. I've reached past 60, avoiding all of these places, and never had a problem. I know the tactical types are going to sneer at this - but it's worked for me so far!!

 

[Camster]

"Left the scene and later turned himself in,with his lawyers present."
More than one mistake in his MO,imo.
In my cynical mind,when someone leaves the scene of any sort of accident,and later shows up at the police station,I wonder if they're waiting for drugs or alcohol to clear their system.

 

[CustomChevyGuy]

I hadn't heard about that at all. I guess I must have missed the news that day, like most..

 

[Rpg]

How do you drop a gun if properly holstered?

Gun handling tyro.

 

[Targets Guy]

I just love to read the comments below the story in the paper article. Must be nice to be so sure about something when you have no idea what happened. I missed out on that gene.

 

[SMSgt]

I feel sorry for all involved - and this validates my absolute rule of empty chamber outside the house if I'm carrying an auto. I suppose that habit could cost me dearly at some point - I just make it a point to never go where I would need a h/g ... even though I frequently carry one.

Amazing . . . simply amazing.

 

[federali]

I don't think so

With modern revolvers and semi-autos, not only must the trigger be pulled but it must also be held to the rear for the gun to fire. Unfortunately, it's too easy to blame a mechanical device as defective than to admit that we screwed up in some way.

 

[Wee Hooker]

I'm thinking that DD uses this as a an excuse to declare their locations a "no carry zone". This position is getting more popular up this way in (liberal) MA where they headquarter.

 

[amcline82]

The real question is what was he doing with it that caused it to drop? Because you know it would not just fall out of the holster unless it was a really really bad one or he was not using one.

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[Jack Flash]

I didn't see anything in the articles about a holster. I wonder if it was in his waistband, sans holster, or merely in a pocket(?)

... after a customer accidentally fired a gun when he dropped it inside the business Saturday morning. ...

From the wording in the article, it sounds like it's possible the gun discharged as he was clumsily attempting to retrieve it.

 

[kbm6893]

I saw a guy in walmart a few months ago open carrying an M&P
Shield. He was using a one size fits all uncle mikes nylon holster that he probably bought at that very Walmart. Looked like an airsoft holster. Gun was flopping around like a fish on the cheap thin leather belt he had.

 

[joebiker]

Actually I understand the new Ruger lcp ll does not have a drop safety. Most modern guns do have drop safeties, but since we have no idea of the age or make of the gun, we may never know.

The story states "after a customer accidentally fired a gun when he dropped it inside the business Saturday"

Did the customer fire the gun or did the gun discharge when it fell to the floor? Can not tell from the report.

Guns have been known to slip out of holsters, I have read accounts of this happening on this forum.

 

[M29since14]

I feel sorry for all involved...

Me too! - but mostly for the injured lady. Seems likely the guntoter was either incompetent or the victim of terrible misfortune that is difficult to imagine. Either way, I would sure hate to be in his shoes. Hope the victim recovers quickly, with no permanent injury.

 

[AlHunt]

From the wording in the article, it sounds like it's possible the gun discharged as he was clumsily attempting to retrieve it.

That makes more sense. We'll probably never know for sure.

 

[Wise_A]

The real question is what was he doing with it that caused it to drop?

The gun was likely never dropped. The "I dropped it and it went off" is a bull story told to cover up grossly negligent behavior. The kind of behavior you typically go to jail for.

Most of the time, the "dropped gun that went off" only goes off when someone tries to catch it or pick it back up.

Hence why your friendly neighborhood RSOs typically insist on picking guns up themselves, rather than letting the shooter that dropped it do so.

 

[Breakaway500]

ND: Negligent discharge. Put the blame where it belongs.

 

[Engine49guy]

First Gen S&W 9mm autos can be inertia drop fired and that is why S&W went to the 2nd gen design,
Walther P38's and P4's can be as well so guessing the PPK series has the same fault when safety is off, this was fixed in the P5,

Also while not certain cant Series 70 and older 1911's drop fire if not on half cock ?
Pre 1972 Ruger SA revolvers can also be drop fired if not on half cock,
NAA mini revolvers can be drop fired if the hammer isnt on the cylinder notch between rounds too.

We just dont know the details or firearm involved.

 

[Old cop]

In an earlier post someone said they keep the chamber empty unless or until going into someplace that the weapon might be needed in a hurry. Several well thought out examples followed but allow me to be the voice of experience here. I've "been there" and can tell you there will not be enough time to chamber a round in an emergency. If that is how you carry you might think about a revolver. I don't mean any disrespect, just don't want to see anyone to get hurt.