After 25 years …no Internal Lock!

BUT>>>>>Still has that ugly modified frame FOR the lock............Is the 19 a 2 pc or 1 pc barrel?
It is a two-piece barrel Model 19 Classic revolver without a lock. The lock is the only difference. Smith & Wesson currently has both Model 19's listed on their website. If you want to be the first kid on your block to own the M19 no lock, it will cost you $110 more than current version which I happen to own.
 
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I just checked out the Youtube video again. I could not see a plug. I think the plug you are seeing may just be a trick of the light.
 
Can anyone definitively advise if the frame re-contour was the result of the frame mounted firing pin or the adoption of the lock? I believe it to be the latter.

Ok, so I looked at the photos of some of the 686s from different periods that I own and see that the change was more gradual.

The back of the frame changed slightly when the frame mounted pin was introduced. You can see the larger space between the cylinder and the end of the frame.

Then the end of the frame changed even more when the hideous IL came about. Actually that change of the curve of the end of the frame with the introduction of the IL always bothered me more than the IL itself.

In any case the introduction of the non-IL revolvers is very welcomed news. That model 19 would be a sweet shooter with a trigger job and a fiber optic front sight.

I can't wait to see if S&W re-releases a non IL 585 L-Comp, like the 585-5 L-comps used to be. I'd be a definite buyer if non-IL PC revolvers start coming out.

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It is a two-piece barrel Model 19 Classic revolver without a lock. The lock is the only difference. Smith & Wesson currently has both Model 19's listed on their website. If you want to be the first kid on your block to own the M19 no lock, it will cost you $110 more than current version which I happen to own.

Nah.....I just keep using my 4 in nickel from the seventies.
 
Ok, so I looked at the photos of some of the 686s from different periods that I own and see that the change was more gradual.

The back of the frame changed slightly when the frame mounted pin was introduced. You can see the larger space between the cylinder and the end of the frame.

Then the end of the frame changed even more when the hideous IL came about. Actually that change of the curve of the end of the frame with the introduction of the IL always bothered me more than the IL itself.

In any case the introduction of the non-IL revolvers is very welcomed news. That model 19 would be a sweet shooter with a trigger job and a fiber optic front sight.

I can't wait to see if S&W re-releases a non IL 585 L-Comp, like the 585-5 L-comps used to be. I'd be a definite buyer if non-IL PC revolvers start coming out.

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Excellent photos, and thanks for shedding some light on that. If the lock drops out of the rest of the lineup, it's definitely conceivable that S&W could revert to the frame contour to the contour that the frame firing pin requires, which is extremely close to the original pre-lock frames and better looking than the post-lock frames by a longshot.

Now, the big question for me is "Are they using two piece barrels?".

From the photos, it appears that the Model 36 and 10 No-Lock have one-piece barrels, and the Model 19 No-Lock is using a two-piece barrel. I suspect we'll have additional photos to go off of once Shot Show 2025 kicks off in a couple of days.
 
Even with the multitude of taper barrel 10's and 64's I own I'll still take a look at one of the new Model 10's. I'll probably buy one just to add a "post lock" revolver to the menagerie.

What I would really like is a new Model 12 so that I can stop using my 1972 vintage 12-2 at work. A 3" Model 12 would be ideal, then I could retire the 12-2 and the 65-3. While they're at it I'd also appreciate a 686 Mountain Gun.
 
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Pre 2000 frame would be a bonus.

Agreed.
They deleted the lock, but kept the newer, modified frame shape that the lock required.
A step in the right direction, but they still don't have the svelte frame shape of the originals. Even with the mushroom ejector rod knob.
They look better, but still not the same IMO...
YMMV.
 
Holding out for a no-lock 610. Shot one at manufacturer's day atl my LGS a few years ago. It the only new introduction since the lock that tempted me to take a chance on it. I stayed strong but might not be able to resist one made the traditional way.
 
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