Jerry is getting paid to promote S&W products , right - best m&p he shot !! What ever , you can decide for your self if its all that for a m&p pistol .
Aluminum Frame M&P9 M2.0
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Jerry is getting paid to promote S&W products , right - best m&p he shot !! What ever , you can decide for your self if its all that for a m&p pistol .
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Only ones i will watch a review from is if they actually bought the gun themselves, i find these big sponsored YT reviewers won't give an honest review for fear of the sponsors not sending them any more guns.
Miculek is an excellent shot no doubt, but he won't **** in his own nest by giving a sponsored gun a bad review, plus he gets all the free ammo to test these things before he even makes a video.
Now i don't know if he gets to keep all those guns buds sends him or has to return them, either way if he gave a lot of bad reviews it would hurt buds selling of that gun and they would stop sending them to him.
Miculek is an excellent shot no doubt, but he won't **** in his own nest by giving a sponsored gun a bad review, plus he gets all the free ammo to test these things before he even makes a video.
Now i don't know if he gets to keep all those guns buds sends him or has to return them, either way if he gave a lot of bad reviews it would hurt buds selling of that gun and they would stop sending them to him.
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Has anyone seen these in stock anywhere yet?
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Waiting on a 9c, ported to magically appear on the S&W website.....
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The number 6 at the end of the model number indicates stainless steel. 3 was for aluminum ally frames. I'm sure there's a far more qualified S&W historian here than myself, but I've been around about as long as the original M39, LOL! The original 10mm model, built on the 4506 platform was the model 1006 and also had a 5" barrel. The 1066 was the 4 1/4" version with the 1076 built at the request of the FBI and had a decocking lever. Some very interesting history associated with that one
Gun broker. $50 below MSRP.
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You guys are, of course, aware that Armscor did this a while back, basically cloning the Glock and using an alum alloy frame? Then Sarsilmaz in Turkey has done the same with the SAR 9, though maybe not available in the US as yet.
Personally, I view this as just another option for the M&P, even while the Mod 2 - or correct me if it was the original M&P - dealt with the frame flexing issue with a steel insert embedded into the polymer.
In any event, saves me from starting the thread I'd considered. I'm what you might call an "old hand." I knew about Glocks from Shotgun News back in 1985, bought one of the very early HK USPs in 1994, but recently, figuring I had at least fired them all, and definitely being a "trigger snob," I gave the Mod 2 Compact in 9mm a go and was very surprised. And while I was on my way back to DA semi-autos and building a CZ 75 variant. It ain't going anywhere. But neither is the Mod 2C!
Personally, I view this as just another option for the M&P, even while the Mod 2 - or correct me if it was the original M&P - dealt with the frame flexing issue with a steel insert embedded into the polymer.
In any event, saves me from starting the thread I'd considered. I'm what you might call an "old hand." I knew about Glocks from Shotgun News back in 1985, bought one of the very early HK USPs in 1994, but recently, figuring I had at least fired them all, and definitely being a "trigger snob," I gave the Mod 2 Compact in 9mm a go and was very surprised. And while I was on my way back to DA semi-autos and building a CZ 75 variant. It ain't going anywhere. But neither is the Mod 2C!
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or $800 at my LGS (and now in my safe at home until I can shoot it later this week)
went in to look at the Springfield Prodigy and had in my mind to buy the new OR non-CORE 9mm with flat trigger. Found the metal instead and only the OR with a safety. Instead of futzing around with removing the safety, just bought the metal instead
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Whatever else may be said, S&W was smart to have a poly front-strap, and continue with their adjustable poly rears. I had a nice alloy-frame G-lone for a hot-minute, just not that RIA 'thing'. ONE trip to the outdoor range left me wanting. Even in the shade, the dang thing would heat-up enough to make me hesitant for such left in the car...or open-carry. NO thank you!
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I like the looks of this new offering, and I do enjoy the nostalgia of a metal framed pistol. With that said, I've been around for a while and know that the mass transition to polymer framed handguns was a big step forward for those who carry a handgun daily. I spent decades carrying a pistol on duty and off, and I continue to do so in retirement. There is little I can think of that a metal framed pistol brings to the table in terms of advantages over polymer.
The truth is that there were very good reasons why polymer framed guns caught on. They're lighter, they're less expensive, the frames don't rust, they help to absorb recoil forces/vibration, they tend to be thinner, they don't require removable grip panels/grip screws/bushings. From my understanding, a lot of the most modern polymer frames are also stronger than their metal counterparts.
To me, a metal framed pistol tends to be a nicer looking pistol, and it feels better in the hand when in use. A polymer pistol is a superior defensive pistol, especially for those who must carry a bunch of other gear on their belts and work in various weather/environmental conditions.
The truth is that there were very good reasons why polymer framed guns caught on. They're lighter, they're less expensive, the frames don't rust, they help to absorb recoil forces/vibration, they tend to be thinner, they don't require removable grip panels/grip screws/bushings. From my understanding, a lot of the most modern polymer frames are also stronger than their metal counterparts.
To me, a metal framed pistol tends to be a nicer looking pistol, and it feels better in the hand when in use. A polymer pistol is a superior defensive pistol, especially for those who must carry a bunch of other gear on their belts and work in various weather/environmental conditions.
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an 8 to 900 dollar pistol and it still comes in a cardboard box. Really?
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All I see here is an aluminum framed version of a Glock. Sorry, but I'm not getting "a tingle down my leg". Striker firing makes for a good utility shooter, but IMHO it's still worthwhile to tune up a hammer based action…YMMV.
Us old fogies always reminisce, but when I look back at the 2nd and 3rd Gen guns that were available with aluminum, carbon steel (blue or nickel) or even stainless frames a couple of decades ago, well to misquote Queen Elizabeth, "We are not impressed."
All those bumps and squiggles on the gun make it look like they tried to make it look modern, but it just looks busy. I'll be spending that $900 on ammo for my 639, thanks. You do you though.
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Us old fogies always reminisce, but when I look back at the 2nd and 3rd Gen guns that were available with aluminum, carbon steel (blue or nickel) or even stainless frames a couple of decades ago, well to misquote Queen Elizabeth, "We are not impressed."
All those bumps and squiggles on the gun make it look like they tried to make it look modern, but it just looks busy. I'll be spending that $900 on ammo for my 639, thanks. You do you though.
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Is there a micro-compact version of this all-metal model?
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Having a gun that is literally too hot to handle does not help in a self defense scenario. It is a major consideration for us in the deserts.
The CSX? But it is supposed to be single action.
Don't look how Les Baer and other "custom" 1911 builders ship their guns.
Besides, the box goes in the closet never to be seen again. I'd rather spend $800 than $810 and get a plastic case I'll never see again after the gun is in the safe.
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