Am I a bad guy?
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"Sorry for you"?
Really?
Really?????
That was kind of a smart-*** comeback and I think you know it.
Really?
Really?????
That was kind of a smart-*** comeback and I think you know it.
I do not blame you for not selling it to him, it does not sound like he is a friend, just a fellow shooter.
His lack of preparation is not your problem. I might sell him some ammo at replacement cost plus my time.
His lack of preparation is not your problem. I might sell him some ammo at replacement cost plus my time.
Bob,
#1, I know you personally and I think if that person, whether he's an acquaintance or a true friend, was in real need of some help, you'd be there for him. Needing more ammo at a shoot, or if he was wanting to stockpile more ammo at home and he knew you had the foresight to be doing just that and expecting you to sell him some is a "want" and not a real "need". If he was expecting to take advantage of your foresight, and hoping to have that turn into his good fortune; then he was setting himself up for a disappointment.
We remember the Boy Scout motto, "Be Prepared". You were & he wasn't!
I feel that his lack of preparedness, when I can only presume he's capable of knowing how much ammo he needed that day or wanted to stockpile at home; having the capability to get in his car, or have someone drive him (he did manage to get to this shooting event somehow), makes me think he needs to learn how to take care of himself and not expect others to do it for him. I also presume he's an adult and not a young child who has not yet picked up the idea of being responsible for himself.
Based on all that, I feel he qualifies as what some people would call a "MOOCH".
#1, I know you personally and I think if that person, whether he's an acquaintance or a true friend, was in real need of some help, you'd be there for him. Needing more ammo at a shoot, or if he was wanting to stockpile more ammo at home and he knew you had the foresight to be doing just that and expecting you to sell him some is a "want" and not a real "need". If he was expecting to take advantage of your foresight, and hoping to have that turn into his good fortune; then he was setting himself up for a disappointment.
We remember the Boy Scout motto, "Be Prepared". You were & he wasn't!
I feel that his lack of preparedness, when I can only presume he's capable of knowing how much ammo he needed that day or wanted to stockpile at home; having the capability to get in his car, or have someone drive him (he did manage to get to this shooting event somehow), makes me think he needs to learn how to take care of himself and not expect others to do it for him. I also presume he's an adult and not a young child who has not yet picked up the idea of being responsible for himself.
Based on all that, I feel he qualifies as what some people would call a "MOOCH".
crofoot629
Absent Comrade
I agree.
At this time I'd take certain friends shooting and supply the .22 ammo. Not so much with center fire ammo.
I was selling .22 ammo at around $0.07 cents per round at the local gun show the other week. I however sold a mom and her young daughter who was shooting 4H two boxes of Federal 550 Bulk Packs for $35. That's around 3 cents per round.
To the OP:
It sounds like your friend was rude in the way he asked you. If that's the case I would have said no too.
Emory
beach elvis
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I don't know whether or not it applies here, but...
I've had occasion through the years to interact with some folks whose financial assets ran from "way above average" to "almost incomprehensible".
Without fail, these guys have neatly fit into either of 2 caregories:
-True gentlemen (John Galbraith, for example, was a true self-made gentleman.)
...or...
-Of the firm belief that having a little money exempts one from the rules of respectful human interaction.
The inhabitants of category 2 think they can just get out their checkbooks, say, "Gimme" to whomever, and that's the last thought about it.
If that's the type of guy to which the OP was referring, then oh yeah, a heartfelt, "Bite Me" would have been my response.
I've had occasion through the years to interact with some folks whose financial assets ran from "way above average" to "almost incomprehensible".
Without fail, these guys have neatly fit into either of 2 caregories:
-True gentlemen (John Galbraith, for example, was a true self-made gentleman.)
...or...
-Of the firm belief that having a little money exempts one from the rules of respectful human interaction.
The inhabitants of category 2 think they can just get out their checkbooks, say, "Gimme" to whomever, and that's the last thought about it.
If that's the type of guy to which the OP was referring, then oh yeah, a heartfelt, "Bite Me" would have been my response.
Frizzman
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If another human being needed something essential to live and you had a huge dump of it and refused to help, maybe it would be selfish to deny them any of what's needed...Depending on circumstances. Since he just wanted ammo to play with, then I believe you were free to do as you pleased without guilt. If I don't have enough ammo, that is my fault. I do feel some frustration with people who will buy up every bit of an essential commodity and deny anybody else a chance. We are then down to the animal level. If somebody decides to relieve the hoarder of their whatever by force...Well, "survival of the fittest" comes into play. I hope some generosity and civility will survive this stupidity...I have a friend that I have known for 40+ years. In his case, he gets half of whatever I have. For most others, not as much.
The other guy had the same opportunity to stock up the same as OP. Lack of planning on your part does not mean that someone with better planning skills must support you.
I can't believe that people didn't learn a thing from 2008 or even 1994. And I'm sure that many won't learn from this current situation, either.
I can't believe that people didn't learn a thing from 2008 or even 1994. And I'm sure that many won't learn from this current situation, either.
4506517
Member
Not a bad guy at all. This society breeds it. "Well if I don't want to/am too lazy to prepare/be responsible for myself, I'll just ask someone else to".
You had the foresight to prepare, he didn't. Why is it your problem he didn't plan?
Did he never seriously consider he might run out of ammunition during a match?
You had the foresight to prepare, he didn't. Why is it your problem he didn't plan?
Did he never seriously consider he might run out of ammunition during a match?
cballman
Member
Well first thing that I see was you said a fellow shooter not a friend. Second he told you he would buy some from you. I have a few friends that I will give them the shirt off my back, my wife, my children, my guns, my ammo, but not my dog. With that said I would have told him about the same thing but probley a whole lot worse. To quote my son "I am a grown *** man and I will do what I want". I can say and do that now that I am old(50) and dont care if I hurt your feelings or not. If I took my time out to buy ammo just for resale then I would have to add time and expense to the selling price. I dont buy to resell I buy so that My kids and wife can shoot with me. Not some Jakeleg that I barely know.
Sorry but thats how I feel and I am old now.
Sorry but thats how I feel and I am old now.
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Now, if I have a conscience that's bothering me, I clean up my side of the street, by going to the person I've offended(or think I offended) and say, hey, I was wrong to offend, here's why I responded to you like I did.---then I go on about my business. Generally speaking, if I handle myself correctly, my conscience doesn't bother me. If it does, I gotta get it straightened out with my fellow man, and, mind you, it has nothing to do with me correcting his bad form or stupidness...'cause that's HIS problem.
I wish you all the best, it'll be o.k.
I wish you all the best, it'll be o.k.
Among the group I run with, the standard is "What's mine is yours...except ammo." We share parts and even test different ammo to see what works best for a particular gun, but when you're empty, your empty. Lots of people are caught short these days, and while it's OK to ask your shooting pals for "loaner" ammo in a pinch, it's quite a different matter if a heavy user can't support his own habit. IMO, you are under no obligation to share your stash with someone who did not prepare in advance. My suggestion: "Try a different caliber."
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Kind of a D*ck response. I understand why you said it, people should be a little better prepared with the current political climate, but a better way of handling it would have simply been to state that you have enough ammo for your shooting habits, but unfortunately, you can't spare any at this time.
Or simply tell him that it will take X dollars to replace your current ammo and I will sell you a box at that price. Then it is up to him to accept a price or so no thank you.
Or simply tell him that it will take X dollars to replace your current ammo and I will sell you a box at that price. Then it is up to him to accept a price or so no thank you.
DWFAN
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You're a lot nicer than I am. I would have told him to go suck on a rock. The guy blatantly TELLS you you're going to sell him your ammo. Bull feathers. You're not polite to me you get double back. You did the right thing in my book and didn't loose anything but a snot head acquaintance that I can assure you you won't miss if he's not there. You've always been top notch in my book and still are.
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