I think that you are confusing common courtesy towards your fellow man, basic common sense and manners with independence.
Am I The Only One Who Notices That People Really Don't Care Anymore?
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I think that you are confusing common courtesy towards your fellow man, basic common sense and manners with independence.
The reason People don't care is because Their Parents didn't care enough to teach Them to.
I was brought up to say Please and Thank You and to hold doors for Women and to respect My elders and I taught My three Boy's to do the same.
I also taught Them to respect Other Peoples Property and if They were involved in a Fight that They better not be the One that started it. Also They grew up with Church activities,We had Them involved in Awanas and Church every Sunday.
They have since all Graduated College and One is a Probation Officer,One is a Engineer at a World Class Company and the Last is studying to be a Doctor.It just goes to show how important a good Family Atmosphere is in raising Children.
I swore that They would have the chances I never had Growing up and it worked out great.
I was brought up to say Please and Thank You and to hold doors for Women and to respect My elders and I taught My three Boy's to do the same.
I also taught Them to respect Other Peoples Property and if They were involved in a Fight that They better not be the One that started it. Also They grew up with Church activities,We had Them involved in Awanas and Church every Sunday.
They have since all Graduated College and One is a Probation Officer,One is a Engineer at a World Class Company and the Last is studying to be a Doctor.It just goes to show how important a good Family Atmosphere is in raising Children.
I swore that They would have the chances I never had Growing up and it worked out great.
Arik
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I don't buy the church/family excuses. I think we all look back and think it was somehow better when really it wasn't or was just different. News didn't spread like it does today. East coast might not have heard half the things that happened on the west coast and vice versa.
Before it was culturally unexpected to have a divorce but still lots of kids were raised buy only one parent. My co-worker was born in 1960. His parents divorced in the 70s. His dad lived at home but he almost never saw him. His dad did what he wanted and when he wanted. He would work and would provide for the family but if he felt like having a 3 day party somewhere then you wouldn't see or hear from him for 3 days. No explanation, no warning, nothing! Just go to work on Monday morning and show up home Thursday evening. This is a guy who was born in the 40s. The good old days when there was respect and courtesy. So my co-worker was raised by his mom. Lots of men were like that.
Another example of great parenting gone bad. My parent's friends. They are a great family, sacrificed a lot for their 2 children. Thought them right for wrong. Thought them to hold door for little ladies, involved in activities. ....The oldest son went into the Army. Became an infantry man, went to college, got his doctor's degree and become an Infantry officer. When he was discharged he moved to Atlanta and now works as some head doctor at a major hospital. The second son got in a lot of trouble with police, did drugs and became drug dealer and a gun runner. He was eventually arrested for gun felonies and hung himself in prison 3 years ago. He wasn't even 40 years old. Good caring family, bad kid
Before it was culturally unexpected to have a divorce but still lots of kids were raised buy only one parent. My co-worker was born in 1960. His parents divorced in the 70s. His dad lived at home but he almost never saw him. His dad did what he wanted and when he wanted. He would work and would provide for the family but if he felt like having a 3 day party somewhere then you wouldn't see or hear from him for 3 days. No explanation, no warning, nothing! Just go to work on Monday morning and show up home Thursday evening. This is a guy who was born in the 40s. The good old days when there was respect and courtesy. So my co-worker was raised by his mom. Lots of men were like that.
Another example of great parenting gone bad. My parent's friends. They are a great family, sacrificed a lot for their 2 children. Thought them right for wrong. Thought them to hold door for little ladies, involved in activities. ....The oldest son went into the Army. Became an infantry man, went to college, got his doctor's degree and become an Infantry officer. When he was discharged he moved to Atlanta and now works as some head doctor at a major hospital. The second son got in a lot of trouble with police, did drugs and became drug dealer and a gun runner. He was eventually arrested for gun felonies and hung himself in prison 3 years ago. He wasn't even 40 years old. Good caring family, bad kid
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When the folks having children allowed them to do anything they wanted without restriction - it all started! We are now about the third level into this manner of NOT raising children and it shows.
ME, I just call the cops and let them handle such things and loud behavior!
Anything I would say or do would just start real problems!!
ME, I just call the cops and let them handle such things and loud behavior!
Anything I would say or do would just start real problems!!
I was wandering around YouTube one day and watching some different stuff.
I came across one of the most horrific things I've seen. At first I thought it was some kind of a sick joke but with some online research I found that it was an actual occurrence. It indicated to me that the "not caring" phenomenon isn't just in this country.
It happened at a market in China. A two year old toddler was walking down a lane that was lined with vendors on both sides. She was hit by a van, fell down and was ran over by the front tire. The van driver stopped and instead of helping the child, continued on. Running the child over with the rear tire. Her broken little body "squirted" out from under the rear tire which left a trail of blood as it drove off.
As the toddler lay bleeding out in the middle of the lane, a few people passed by uncaring. Then a van ran over her legs, barely slowing down.
As she lay there dying no less than 18 people passed her on bicycles, on foot and on scooters. Some stopped to get a better look then continued on.
Finally, a 57 year old grandmother described as a "refuse lady" pulled the toddlers body off to the side and went to get the mother who ran a vendors booth. The mother scooped up the toddler who had slipped into a coma and took her to the hospital.
The little one held on for eight days before passing due to multiple organ failure.
I came across one of the most horrific things I've seen. At first I thought it was some kind of a sick joke but with some online research I found that it was an actual occurrence. It indicated to me that the "not caring" phenomenon isn't just in this country.
It happened at a market in China. A two year old toddler was walking down a lane that was lined with vendors on both sides. She was hit by a van, fell down and was ran over by the front tire. The van driver stopped and instead of helping the child, continued on. Running the child over with the rear tire. Her broken little body "squirted" out from under the rear tire which left a trail of blood as it drove off.
As the toddler lay bleeding out in the middle of the lane, a few people passed by uncaring. Then a van ran over her legs, barely slowing down.
As she lay there dying no less than 18 people passed her on bicycles, on foot and on scooters. Some stopped to get a better look then continued on.
Finally, a 57 year old grandmother described as a "refuse lady" pulled the toddlers body off to the side and went to get the mother who ran a vendors booth. The mother scooped up the toddler who had slipped into a coma and took her to the hospital.
The little one held on for eight days before passing due to multiple organ failure.
China is a very different culture than ours and despite what you may hear on the news female children are NOT valued especially in a society that only allows one child per family.
Losing the daughter only opened a door for another chance to have a male child
Losing the daughter only opened a door for another chance to have a male child
zzzippper
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With a population approaching 1.5 billion people, life has less meaning in China. Sadly, that is especially true for girls.
The miscreants no that their conduct is unacceptable that is why their response to an objection appears to be springloaded. They are waiting for someone to say something so that they may rant and scream their heads off. Sometimes I tolerate them and sometimes I don't.
Excellent post and Very true. But it doesn't stop there. My wife and I raised our four children to the absolute best of our abilities. Despite ever rising peer pressures and lazy schools. We know this and are good with that. However, we also remain committed in helping them to raise their children whenever They need us to help. Our job in raising good human beings is never over.
I've said this many times, This country no longer has any class or spine to correct what is wrong,,,,just leave it go, that's okay! Let's reward the losers!
Take a look at pictures from the 40's,50's and 60's, men dressed in white shirts and ties at ball games? Women dressed accordingly as well!
Take a look a travel pictures from those days even up into the 70's Getting on a plane or a train,you were dressed properly and this type of event was something of a special occasion. Now we get on planes looking like slobs and wearing clothing that looks like pajamas!
We can't even talk to one another face to face anymore, just watch the thumb actions on the smart phones in restaurants and even behind the wheel. Sometimes I wonder if those people sitting across from one another aren't texting each other? , wouldn't surprise me!
Everything today is I me , I me and nuts to you I'm entitled!
All I can say is that as most of us here were bought up properly, yes ma'am , no sir, open the door for a lady, un lid while dining and so forth! I have raised my children the same and now they are doing the same. Some people cannot believe how polite my 4year old granddaughter is!,and I want to tell you I couldn't be prouder!
So I must question, where did we lose it? I have my thoughts but I'll leave those for another day!
CAJUNLAWYER
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If the idiot wins the "frivolous" law suit, maybe it wasn't frivolous after all.................In my 30 years of practice the frivolous suits are the ones the insurance company looses, while the meritorious suits are the ones they win. Go figure.....
Rogue Wizard
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Nope. Your not alone. I taught my children right and I have to smile a bit when I hear my youngest son using the same phraseology on his kids that came out of my mouth (damn,.... he really did hear me all those years ago).
I hear all this cripe about "getting respect". You don't get respect. "Respect is earned,... not given". That came out of MY father's mouth all those years ago. I never forgot it.
I hear all this cripe about "getting respect". You don't get respect. "Respect is earned,... not given". That came out of MY father's mouth all those years ago. I never forgot it.
Currently there is a move to regulate the use of ATVs and dirt bikes in our township.........a middle and upper middle class suburb of Pittsburgh.
I'm not opposed to ATV etc......... I still have my 1984 Honda 3 wheeler, 2other Honda 4-wheelers and a Polaris RZR side-by-side... at the farm in the Laurel Highlands.
The President of Counsel...... stated .... that the only reason the Twp. was looking to regulate off-road vehicles ....... was because neighbors couldn't work it out among themselves....... then calling the Police....
In this day and age a Police Officer can no longer be "Solomon" ...... now the Police have to be given written laws to enforce!
While some of the Twp. is 1/4 and 1/2 acre lots; there are some horse farms and a fair amout of the area is 1-2 acre lots. In addition; we have about 4-5 miles of the Rachel Carson Trail crossing the township , a nature preserve, multiple green areas (public and private) as well as a Township and 2 County parks............
Most attending the public meetings seemed interested in finding ways to allow all parties to enjoy their "private" property.......... but
There was a "not so small" minority that was taking the position that they should be able to ride wherever and whenever they wanted......including passing over others property to get to larger tracts of land.
I could not believe the entitlement "attitude" of the people giving their public comments....... if your land (or part if it) is " just wooded" vs landscaped it should be open to public use!
I'm not opposed to ATV etc......... I still have my 1984 Honda 3 wheeler, 2other Honda 4-wheelers and a Polaris RZR side-by-side... at the farm in the Laurel Highlands.
The President of Counsel...... stated .... that the only reason the Twp. was looking to regulate off-road vehicles ....... was because neighbors couldn't work it out among themselves....... then calling the Police....
In this day and age a Police Officer can no longer be "Solomon" ...... now the Police have to be given written laws to enforce!
While some of the Twp. is 1/4 and 1/2 acre lots; there are some horse farms and a fair amout of the area is 1-2 acre lots. In addition; we have about 4-5 miles of the Rachel Carson Trail crossing the township , a nature preserve, multiple green areas (public and private) as well as a Township and 2 County parks............
Most attending the public meetings seemed interested in finding ways to allow all parties to enjoy their "private" property.......... but
There was a "not so small" minority that was taking the position that they should be able to ride wherever and whenever they wanted......including passing over others property to get to larger tracts of land.
I could not believe the entitlement "attitude" of the people giving their public comments....... if your land (or part if it) is " just wooded" vs landscaped it should be open to public use!
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BigBill
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No one has any respect for each other. I think with all this end of life as we know it or the end of the world predictions it's on the back of most people's minds. It's like everyone is going for that last OREO cookie. Life is in one big rush, a big push to go nowhere. Get off the gas pedal of life, shut off the car. Go and relax. Chill for life could be worse.
I have cancer inside of me in low numbers. It could comeback in three years, eight years, twelve years or never comeback. I could care less I don't have the time to sit and wait or worry about it. I don't disrespect anyone. People I notice think there better than anyone. I don't give a dam about wether your upper class, middle class or lower class we all sit on the crapper the same right? We're all gods children.
I treat people in the way I want to be treated. If there mean to me I can be the meanest *** on this earth. Treat people with respect and you will get respect back.
I have cancer inside of me in low numbers. It could comeback in three years, eight years, twelve years or never comeback. I could care less I don't have the time to sit and wait or worry about it. I don't disrespect anyone. People I notice think there better than anyone. I don't give a dam about wether your upper class, middle class or lower class we all sit on the crapper the same right? We're all gods children.
I treat people in the way I want to be treated. If there mean to me I can be the meanest *** on this earth. Treat people with respect and you will get respect back.
shouldazagged
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Those good old days sure sound different from my good old days. Nostalgia hasn't erased my memories of the very active and dangerous Klan, people black-marketing rationed food and other items at obscene prices, etc.
Herknav
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They must've learned it from the Baby Boomers that JFK felt needed to be told to ask what they could do for their country.
The problem with nostalgia and remembering the good old days is that it's remembered from a kid's perspective.
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