Winchester and Aguila.
Ammo brands you avoid
- Thread starter Dave Lively
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Interesting. Maybe it depends on what firearm one is using it in.
REM Thunderbolts and Goldens have no issues in my K22 and in the wife’s Buckmark. Only issue we’ve had lately is stovepipes in the Buckmark with Aguila Standard velocity, but that’s understandable and okay - just more fodder for the revolver.
The only other cartridge I’d avoid is 9mm Venom (Turkish, bought two cases during covid as it was a relative deal for the time). Shoots okay, but too many split cases for this reloader.
LVSteve
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Blazer is a bit grubby, especially in 115 gr for some reason. The only 22 that has given me trouble is Remington.
slickracer
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Winchester....I will throw rocks before I use their .22 ammo
However, their AA shotshells are still decent.
However, their AA shotshells are still decent.
Just an update on my post in this thread. Armscor is sending me a brick of 22Lr to replace the problematic one we had. I wish more companies were this upstanding when there is a problem.
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AMERC...........A sling shot and a marble is better.
Funny. I've shot thousands of Golden Bullets out of my 22a-1 over the last couple of years. It's that gun's favorite ammo. The bullets do often spin in the case but it doesn't seem to affect anything.
My best target with the gun and Golden Bullets, 25 rounds at 15 yards. Normal results aren't usually quite this good but still excellent.
Hahaha I spin the bullets too and do not understand how they are so reliable for me. If there is a crimp its the weakest I have ever seen. Maybe I got lucky but I have shot entire buckets with only a few rare FTF´s here and there.
They spin in the cases...But they stay straight. The Winchesters ...don't I've no problems with Remington other than Thundert**ds..in fact they even seem to be better since the Pandemic years...or maybe I just got a couple of good packs. In fact other than Winchester the only 22s I have had any problems with is quite a few FTF with the Armscor ammo..and the Agula really smell funny and have had about 4 low reports when fired. I have an ugly old DCM 513 T that the Aguilla shoots great in...the Armscor too when it fires...but I think it's about all gone. I wish hose 513s were grooved receivers.. I could put scopes on em and be able to see better. I havea brick of Eley 10X here that I would use...but I can't shoot well enough to make myself shoot 'em for what they cost. I'll take 'em to a gun show and sell 'em
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ggibson511960
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Winchester T22
Years ago when I shot .22 metallic silhouette hunter pistol open sights, I went through a bunch of .22 LR. The brand we settled on was Winchester T22. It wasn't as accurate (reportedly) as higher end stuff like Ely, but the price was right, it functioned reliably and was plenty accurate for offhand target work. A friend showed me a round that had failed to fire after repeated strikes. He had opened it up and found no priming compound in the rim. The group consensus was this was found every dozen bricks or so. It was target work and nobody cared. The rules allowed for misfires without penalty.
Years ago when I shot .22 metallic silhouette hunter pistol open sights, I went through a bunch of .22 LR. The brand we settled on was Winchester T22. It wasn't as accurate (reportedly) as higher end stuff like Ely, but the price was right, it functioned reliably and was plenty accurate for offhand target work. A friend showed me a round that had failed to fire after repeated strikes. He had opened it up and found no priming compound in the rim. The group consensus was this was found every dozen bricks or so. It was target work and nobody cared. The rules allowed for misfires without penalty.
No steel ASE ammo, no Chinese ammo.years ago a buddy bought a case of 7.62 X 39 Chinese. Got it for like 9 cents/round. First trip to the Range-BANG, Pop Bang, pow, Bang! Power (powder level?) was all over the place. One case would fly 30 ft, the next barely clear the receiver. It “might” have grouped in a barn door at 100 yards IF the door was big enough��. Absolutely junk. Grossly overpriced even at 9 cents��. It DID all fire, but was totally worthless for any real purpose other than making (funny) noise.
scattershot
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I avoid Any .22ammo made by anyone but CCI.
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I try to avoid Remington and Winchester 22LR. I also avoid Winchester white box pistol rounds unless they're the only thing available. Pretty much anything else is fair game.
The only ammo I really avoid is Remington Thunderbolt 22LR. We always called them Blunderbolts because they were so inconsistent. You could often hear rounds that cracked differently and resulted in bullets that flew well outside of the group while shooting from the bench. I know they aren't match ammo, but they were more inconsistent than any other cheap promo load we tried.
38SPL HV
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I remember my friend’s parents who both worked at Remington Ammo Bridgeport CT long ago…they took pride in their work. Factory ammo quality in my opinion has dropped over the years, particularly with revolver ammo. Remember the days with nice crimps and sealed primers? Gone…but, Remington seems to be listening since their revolver cartridges are properly crimped nowadays. You have to head into Federal’s premium line to get real good stuff or Buffalo Bore, Underwood or Double Tap.
European ammo, particularly, in 9mm, appear to be better quality nowadays in my opinion…
European ammo, particularly, in 9mm, appear to be better quality nowadays in my opinion…
I have had lots of duds with Armscor 22lr. I try to avoid any steel or aluminum cased ammo as it sticks in my guns more than brass. However, in case of shortages any will do.
I still avoid all things Remington, except their 30-30 rifle, and all things Winchester except continual experiments with their 22LR.
Some members may remember my early posts of my trials after shooting a double-charged Winchester 110gr Silvertip at an indoor range. I liked Silvertip 110's - shot well in my 60, and my mdl 10. In the late 80's-early 90's they were my factory go-to self defense round.
I bought 1500 rounds from SGAmmo, and the first ~300 were fine, then the explosion. Didn't hurt my 637. Amazing. Took me a couple of months to get it replaced. Finally Winchester replaced the entire order, including what I'd used. Much help from Sam Gabbert.
I think it's ok, but I still have ~1250 rounds left after several years. I need to shoot these up, but my shooting has drifted to 9mm, 44's, and lots of 22LR's. The brass is great for reloading. Saving every one.
Some members may remember my early posts of my trials after shooting a double-charged Winchester 110gr Silvertip at an indoor range. I liked Silvertip 110's - shot well in my 60, and my mdl 10. In the late 80's-early 90's they were my factory go-to self defense round.
I bought 1500 rounds from SGAmmo, and the first ~300 were fine, then the explosion. Didn't hurt my 637. Amazing. Took me a couple of months to get it replaced. Finally Winchester replaced the entire order, including what I'd used. Much help from Sam Gabbert.
I think it's ok, but I still have ~1250 rounds left after several years. I need to shoot these up, but my shooting has drifted to 9mm, 44's, and lots of 22LR's. The brass is great for reloading. Saving every one.
Very interesting discussion. I have two questions on 22LR.
At the range I have recently shot 100s of rounds of CCI SV, Stinger, Amscor SV lead nose, Winchester HP copper plated, with maybe 2 rounds that did not go bang. I did not keep track of the brand. But I will from now on.
#1 - Does plated ammo shoot cleaner and easier on the barrel than lead nose? Like the copper plated Winchester HP and the Remington Yellow Jacket plated?
I clean my firearms after every use.
#2 – I have 22LR ammo (900 rnds of Winchester Wildcat lead and 500 rnds of Remington Yellow Jacket 22) that is 45+ years old, kept inside the home dark and dry. Is it still safe to shoot?
At the range I have recently shot 100s of rounds of CCI SV, Stinger, Amscor SV lead nose, Winchester HP copper plated, with maybe 2 rounds that did not go bang. I did not keep track of the brand. But I will from now on.
#1 - Does plated ammo shoot cleaner and easier on the barrel than lead nose? Like the copper plated Winchester HP and the Remington Yellow Jacket plated?
I clean my firearms after every use.
#2 – I have 22LR ammo (900 rnds of Winchester Wildcat lead and 500 rnds of Remington Yellow Jacket 22) that is 45+ years old, kept inside the home dark and dry. Is it still safe to shoot?
Back yonder I sold a lot of the SKS Chinese rifles and the Norinco supposed HP hunting ammo. Many of those who bought them used 'em hunting the swamps on the eastern shore of Md for sika deer(Japanese Elk). The rifles all worked well for that purpose and they loved 'em Surpisingly that el cheapo Norinco ammo shot good Very accurate for the type rifle and it killed those little Japanese elk just fine. I still have a bit. The Norinco pistol 7.62X25 ammo was fairly accurate too...and cheap. One fellow shot a sika with they figured a somewhat mud plugged bore. Killed the deer with the bullet and about 8 inches of the barrel liner at 10-12 yards.... 6 point and weighed 71 pounds field dressed...I gave him a new rifle. I was surprised at how well that Norinco ammo shot
GnarlsR2----the answer to both your questions is yes.
