Ammo Scalpers

[crankyoldlady]

That's exactly right. And they are accepting! What irks me is that I am a reloader and I cannot get components because all the people who, despite the lessons of the post-Sandy Hook ammo panic and other recent event, lacked the foresight to be prepared and they have depleted the market of everything ammo. Let me say it another way. The only reason people like us cannot get ammo and components...is because of the people who didn't prepare

Just human nature. It would be great if everyone did as they should. But they don't. And won't.

 

[pharmer]

Just human nature. It would be great if everyone did as they should. But they don't. And won't.

From what I've gathered this week, the Academy/WalMart scalpers are a coordinated group of retirees. Even if they score 2 boxes of 9mm/.380/.38spl/.45acp@$25 a box 50, They can flip it TODAY for $75 and pocket a Benjamin. Most see it as "social club." I'm almost sympathetic; some retirees live on $1K-$1.5K/ no. With all the "bilious bloviating" about a $15hr minimum wage (about $2500/mo) why ain't that the MINIMUM SS check? Joe

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

Why don't ya'll leave this post and go pull the handles on ya MEC's and Dillons if ya want ammo?

 

[Gary M]

That's exactly right. And they are accepting! What irks me is that I am a reloader and I cannot get components because all the people who, despite the lessons of the post-Sandy Hook ammo panic and other recent event, lacked the foresight to be prepared and they have depleted the market of everything ammo. Let me say it another way. The only reason people like us cannot get ammo and components...is because of the people who didn't prepare

So you are irked because other people that didn't learn from the past are making it more difficult or expensive for you, who apparently did learn from the past but chose to ignore it anyway, to buy your ammo and /or components because you did not prepare and that is their fault because they were smarter than you were.

My guess is that some of them are likewise irked that they cannot buy certain old used revolvers because there are people that feel they must own dozens or hundreds of them and make them unavailable or overpriced for them to purchase for their own use.

 

[AManWearingAHat]

So you are irked because other people that didn't learn from the past are making it more difficult or expensive for you, who apparently did learn from the past but chose to ignore it anyway, to buy your ammo and /or components because you did not prepare and that is their fault because they were smarter than you were.

My guess is that some of them are likewise irked that they cannot buy certain old used revolvers because there are people that feel they must own dozens or hundreds of them and make them unavailable or overpriced for them to purchase for their own use.

The irony is palpable.

 

[germansheperd]

Went back to Wal-Mart this morning at 9:02 while most are calling on the phone from their couch bitching after dropping my son off at school and picked these boxes of 17HMR for $9 ea. No I don't even own a 17HMR.
Once again go everyday and you will find something to shoot, trade, or sell.

 

[Muddyboot]

Went back to Wal-Mart this morning at 9:02 while most are calling on the phone from their couch bitching after dropping my son off at school and picked these boxes of 17HMR for $9 ea. No I don't even own a 17HMR.
Once again go everyday and you will find something to shoot, trade, or sell.

I'm stocking up on .455 Webley for the day I buy a Webley revolver, always a good idea to pre buy ammo when you find it at a good price....

 

[germansheperd]

I'm stocking up on .455 Webley for the day I buy a Webley revolver, always a good idea to pre buy ammo when you find it at a good price....

I like the way you think.

 

[1BadSmith]

This thread is great! Would love some of the folks who bought Smith's and Colt's in the 60's and 70's, to PM me and sell them to me at their purchase price back then!! Hell, how about cabin owners and land owners too, farmers?? How bout sell me that land you paid $30 bucks an acre for?? Why not? It's the right thing to do. Or how about the bazillion people that inherited guns or land? Those evil *******s, selling for profit!! How dare they!!

 

[germansheperd]

This thread is great! Would love some of the folks who bought Smith's and Colt's in the 60's and 70's, to PM me and sell them to me at their purchase price back then!! Hell, how about cabin owners and land owners too, farmers?? How bout sell me that land you paid $30 bucks an acre for?? Why not? It's the right thing to do. Or how about the bazillion people that inherited guns or land? Those evil *******s, selling for profit!! How dare they!!

This place is loaded with hypocrites. They cry about a $100 box of ammo but when I look in the classified section they want $1400 for a gun they paid $200 for.
Rules for thee but not for me.

 

[BC38]

Read post #27

 

[germansheperd]

Read post #27

It's the same thing. If you sleep good at night ripping someone off selling them a handgun 7x more than you paid for, only wiping it down a few times in 30 years you are worse than an ammo scalper because they are only selling at 2-3x what they paid for it.
As I said it's not Capitalism if I don't like what your doing around here. That seems to be the motto.

 

[pharmer]

It's the same thing. If you sleep good at night ripping someone off selling them a handgun 7x more than you paid for, only wiping it down a few times in 30 years you are worse than an ammo scalper because they are only selling at 2-3x what they paid for it.
As I said it's not Capitalism if I don't like what your doing around here. That seems to be the motto.

I'm beginning to think that after sleeping for 8 years somebody's account got hijacked. Joe

 

[firefighterjohn]

This thread is great! Would love some of the folks who bought Smith's and Colt's in the 60's and 70's, to PM me and sell them to me at their purchase price back then!! Hell, how about cabin owners and land owners too, farmers?? How bout sell me that land you paid $30 bucks an acre for?? Why not? It's the right thing to do. Or how about the bazillion people that inherited guns or land? Those evil *******s, selling for profit!! How dare they!!

OK good...I call 2nds! Glad I got in this line...LOL

 

[germansheperd]

No ammo at Wal-Mart for me this morning but went across the street to Dunhams and picked these up at 9:05 this morning.

 

[BC38]

It's the same thing. If you sleep good at night ripping someone off selling them a handgun 7x more than you paid for, only wiping it down a few times in 30 years you are worse than an ammo scalper because they are only selling at 2-3x what they paid for it.
As I said it's not Capitalism if I don't like what your doing around here. That seems to be the motto.

OK, so price adjustment for 30 years of inflation (guns), and for 30 years of inflation AND ongoing investment (homes) are the same thing as cleaning out the ammo shelves today (so others don't get any) so you can sell it to other gun owners tomorrow for a 400% profit are the exact same thing. Sure they are
There is a reason why PROFITEERING and GOUGING and SCALPING have been defined words in the English dictionary for decades if not centuries.

 

[BC38]

I'm beginning to think that after sleeping for 8 years somebody's account got hijacked. Joe

I'm seeing a lot of posts from accounts like that here and on other gun forums, and SURPRISE they all seem to be folks defending scalping ammo.

Makes you wonder how many of them are just profiteers who really have little or no interest in guns - they just pop up on the boards whenever there is a shortage. The timing sure looks suspicious since the last shortage was right about 8 years ago.

They are in the same category as the folks at CTD in my book.

 

[elm_creek_smith]

Back when basic ARs were going for $1200.00 & up, I bought a Mini-14 for $607.00 @ WalMart. Bought a bunch of Monarch steel-cased ammo for $4.99/box of 20 @ Academy. Collected magazines and goodies over time.

Now, I've promised it to my granddaughter when she gets out of the Marines this summer.

Gonna have to get the Mosin-Nagant M38 out, dust it off and open that can of 440 rounds of 7.62x54R.

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[AManWearingAHat]

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Makes you wonder how many of them are just profiteers who really have little or no interest in guns - they just pop up on the boards whenever there is a shortage. The timing sure looks suspicious since the last shortage was right about 8 years ago.

Ammunition is a volatile commodity like anything else. The markets don't care. You think everyone who owns stock in Ford has an F150 in their driveway? When there is money to be made due to demand spikes, people will flock to it. It doesn't matter if it is ammunition or stock in a company. Some will make a lot of money and others will get burned when the price finds its new equilibrium. This has been going on forever. There has never been any "morality" in markets. It's just convenient to blame the other side as "profiteers" when you're on the losing end of a trade.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Willing Buyer and Willing Seller b viva La Free Market .

It's not just about " People like Us" . There are 5-7 million and growing new gunowners , who previously didn't own guns . Multiply by 100 rounds per gun b and that's a big chunk of the average annual production of centerfire ammunition . And brand new owners with any degree of Reason & Prudence will also seek sufficient additional ammo to gain sufficient familarization and handling to not be a danger to themselves , and have an inkling of being able to use for its intended ppurpose .

Additionally , there is proposed legislation Nationally , and recently passed and currently being debated z
State restrictions on the buying of ammo . Particularly in those jurisdictions , it is a factor for mental calculus about better to have additional Now , while you still Can even if higher prices , than later either not be able to , or face Draconian Restrictions .

There are two catagories of LGS now : Those who have ammo priced to reflect their wholesale cost and/ or current Replacement Cost , and those with empty shelves , who just shrug when asked about future availability .

And those of us with certain stashes ok f ammo on hand ? It's your Free Will decision to : Suspend disbelief , and use at pre p anic levels, trusting that supply and demand will stabilize within n 50% of historical point before you use up your stash on hand .

Or still shoot at rediced volumes, but with more dryfire and less live fire .
. Or essentially put shooting on indefinite hold , other than actual defensive , or actually at a critter you will eat , with bare minimum of sigthing in/ verification .

Which is the Wise approach ? I dunno , my Crystal Ball is in the shop .