And the war is on.

[Rocketmedic40]

Orchestrated by the US and Britain in 1953. Fair enough, but that was 72 years ago.
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Lasting until 1979, and then let’s not forget how we armed, funded and equipped Saddam Hussein in his war against Iran from 1984-1988. Lots of Iranian fathers and grandfathers gone because we demanded “payback” against those who dared to defy our stooge…

And of course there’s the whole airliner shoot down and the sanctions.

Not saying it’s right, but we may have played a slight part in getting their ire up…

 

[biku324]

We did support a coup against a popular government and install a puppet dictator with all the trimmings…there may be some legitimate grievances lurking around Iran against American influence.

100% correct.

The CIA now officially describes the 1953 coup it backed in Iran that overthrew its prime minister and cemented the rule of Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi as undemocratic. https://apnews.com/article/iran-1953-coup-cia-218323db3cc1aca6bde1e54827527e8d

 

[Rocketmedic40]

'Death to America' and 'Death to Israel' in the region is akin to saying, "You stink," "Pound sand," or "Bite me" over here. It's just not language indicating imminent slaughter of millions. Different cultures, different meanings.

And it’s not like our own politicians, media and entertainment haven’t framed Iran as evil incarnate for literally my entire life.

Boomers watching JAG and NCIS got the whole “Israel good Iran bad” message every episode.

Call of Duty and Battlefield and Rainbow Six are literally “Iranian savages are coming TRAIN FOR WAR!”

President Bush defined three unrelated countries who all hate al-Queda as the “axis of evil” and invaded one of them.

Long memories ain’t just a ME thing.

 

[Rocketmedic40]

Heck, Chuck Norris was kick-launching Iranian dudes through airliners long before Tom Cruise was dogfight-bombing totally-not-Iranian nuclear MiGs in a liberated Tomcat…point is, we did a hard 180* on Iran in 1979 and now they’re basically the Arachnids from Starship Troopers to most Americans.

How fast we forget.

Also an object lesson to our “allies”, they can be memory-holed fast.

 

[biku324]

Orchestrated by the US and Britain in 1953. Fair enough, but that was 72 years ago.
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Just like Islam has gotten over accession arguments over the Prophet's position after his death in 632 AD. The Sunn'i and Shi'a truly were 'besties' afterward. Still are. Really.

These are not Americans, and trying to ascribe American motivations and belief systems to those in the region isn't profitable.

Again, declare victory and leave.

 

[Onomea]

I read Leon Uris's novel Exodus when I was about 12 years old. I think it has influenced me throughout my life to be sympathetic to Israel.

I remain sympathetic to Israel, but, in recent years, have begun to see the country's warts as well.

Exodus (Uris novel) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[biku324]

Uris wrote some great stuff - my favorite was 'Battle Cry.'

 

[Oldengineer]

All I can say is that the results are always perfect for the choices made . There will be serious consequences for all involved.

 

[GaryS]

"Battle Cry" the movie got panned, but I find it very entertaining. Even the "love" scenes.

Uris wrote some great stuff - my favorite was 'Battle Cry.'