Now THAT is interesting!
Another little problem with renewable energy?
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Now THAT is interesting!
NFrameFred
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Perfect example - when there is an affordable market where money can be made (I can afford the product and you can sustain a profit on it) THEN more and more recyclable and green technologies will NATURALLY replace outdated technologies and dependence on nonrenewable resources.
NOT by forcing products and technologies on the buyer that cannot afford it and a producer that can't produce it at an affordable price and make a fair profit on their product.
Regardless of how the pin-headed socialists try to paint it, that's capitalism and naturally spurs innovation, research, and market competition to produce the best products for the lowest price to fulfill the need.
UncleEd
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Of course, NFrameFred, capitalism
works even better with large
infusions of government funding in
grants, subsidies, selected tax
breaks and laws supporting
reforms that control wanton
money-grubbing practices such
as uncontrolled waste dumping.
And so on.
works even better with large
infusions of government funding in
grants, subsidies, selected tax
breaks and laws supporting
reforms that control wanton
money-grubbing practices such
as uncontrolled waste dumping.
And so on.
venomballistics
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Electric is not quite ready for prime time, but still worth development.
Another direction might be found in a Canadian individuals process of stripping CO2 from the atmosphere to produce methanol.
As a stand alone fuel, it's a good bit thirstier than gasoline but is a "drop in replacement".
New injectors, ECM, and a few likely fuel system parts and it'll run. Likely will less problems to iron out than electric
Another direction might be found in a Canadian individuals process of stripping CO2 from the atmosphere to produce methanol.
As a stand alone fuel, it's a good bit thirstier than gasoline but is a "drop in replacement".
New injectors, ECM, and a few likely fuel system parts and it'll run. Likely will less problems to iron out than electric
NFrameFred
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You're entitled to such a cynical sarcastic view but I submit that the very reason things are in the mess they are in is, in good part, because of government over reach, meddling, and the attitude of many that big daddy government is the savior. I'm quite sure the Founding Fathers would not hold that view, but those that continue to worship at that altar will not be swayed and I realized long ago the futility of trying.
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Source? I hadn't heard of this- and I'm in Canada
A quick search turned up a 2018 Cdn. gov't article on a methaol production project, and a searxh for "methanol as auto fuel" brought up a lot of hits.Problem is providing a supply. Same with hydrogen cell. I see increasing numbers of charging stations for EVs - not so much here, but the Fred Meyer in Bellingham WA has several. All these alternate technologies require infrastructure, which costs money and space. I can't see other fuel alternatives, however good, being offered at gas stations. Perhaps for some sectors of industry, though.
F4phantom
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global warming/climate change, whatever you call it has been happening for several millennia. If folks remember back in the late 70's they (the same people doing the predicting today) predicted the coming of a mini ice age. We were all going to freeze to death. Are thing changing, yes but man is a very small part of it. Plants produce CO2 at night and volcanoes produce all kind of nasty stuff that get spewed into the atmosphere everyday.
Do we all want clean air and water? Oh course we do. The US has reduced it's pollution the most in the last 50 years. Will we be driving electric vehicles sometime in the future? We probably will. We need to figure out the best way to transition if we need to. What they are doing now is going to make us a third world country. Like other have said follow the money e.g. Paul Pelosi and other politicians.
Use the resources we have and make them better. Simple.
Do we all want clean air and water? Oh course we do. The US has reduced it's pollution the most in the last 50 years. Will we be driving electric vehicles sometime in the future? We probably will. We need to figure out the best way to transition if we need to. What they are doing now is going to make us a third world country. Like other have said follow the money e.g. Paul Pelosi and other politicians.
Use the resources we have and make them better. Simple.
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It's not necessarily that "green has problems". It's largely the matter of the zealots who want to drive out fossil fuels by 20XX have no clue about what that means. While it might (and that's a long stretch in rural areas) be achievable for personal transportation, it totally ignores farming, industrial and supply chain needs. We've barely got capability to produce cars, they're starting on life style (for the rich and famous) 1/2 ton pickups. Without fossil fuels, how ya gonna plant and harvest crops on farms measured in square miles? How are ya gonna mine for the materials you need to "go green"? and so forth.
Oh yeah, still gonna need lubricants for all that stuff.
Trivial matters, our masters know what is best for us!
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Back in 1840, my ancestor headed for the US so he would never, ever again have to refer to anyone as "Master" or bend the knee.
However, I've had to work with a few folks who qualified as sexual intellectuals. [bleeping-know-it-alls]
However, I've had to work with a few folks who qualified as sexual intellectuals. [bleeping-know-it-alls]
8 years? I would hope so.
Around here many solar companies require a 15 year lease commitment. Which gives me a good idea of how long they expect the panels to last.
Oh, they also require the lessee to require the contract to be continued if they sell the house.
Oh, they also charge the lessee if they have to put a new roof on during the term of the lease. Which means that before your sign the lease, you should probably put a new roof on your house.
Oh, they also require the lessee to require the contract to be continued if they sell the house.
Oh, they also charge the lessee if they have to put a new roof on during the term of the lease. Which means that before your sign the lease, you should probably put a new roof on your house.
Germany is mad Russia cut them off from gas.
If I killed my neighbors son I wouldn't ask him to mow my lawn.
DWalt
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The French are indeed having nuclear power plant problems but not because they are "Green Weenies." See: French Nuclear Power Crisis Frustrates Europe's Push to Quit Russian Energy - The New York Times
DWalt
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I have wondered how that works. Most roofing materials don't have a very long life, and to replace it, all of the solar cells would need to be removed and later re-installed. Who pays for that? And what if there is a major hailstorm? Are solar panels hail proof? And will homeowners insurance pay for storm damaged solar panel replacement?
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The idea of "wind power" is as valid as sailing ships. They save fuel by the tons. They do not however provide reliability in a "just-in-time" inventory/supply chain economy. Joe
PS: Most wind turbines I see out in Kansas/Colorado etc are stopped. Apparently, too much or too little wind is bad for them.
PS: Most wind turbines I see out in Kansas/Colorado etc are stopped. Apparently, too much or too little wind is bad for them.
I'm sure all the millions who live in the inner cities are waiting to go green. Or is green just meant for us middle class folks?
DWalt
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As I think I mentioned earlier, the same thing is happening now in Texas. Not enough wind to keep them spinning, and wind power generation is way down, just at the time it is most needed.
johnjohn
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Sink those old blades in the ground and make a big fence also known as a wall. Keeps out "illeagles".
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