Another mass shooting in Florida.

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We always want to think these shooters are stupid. But somehow, they pick a place where the occupants are known to be unarmed and unable to defend themselves. How long will this go on before we hold the people partially liable that took away your right to defend your family. Some of the stupid here is the people making the rules.
 
This went down in my neck of the woods. Been to the Jacksonville Landing many, many times. There was a gang shooting there in January last year so many of us assumed it was another.

Not the case, it was a Madden Football gamer tournament. The loser got mad and went to his car and got a gun. Came back and started shooting. He killed 2 and wounded 9. Then the coward blew his own brains out.

Updates as I write this: White kid in his early 20's. Used a simi-auto pistol. May be in town from Baltimore for the tournament.
 
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The Landing was a fun place in the '80s. Then like all malls it started turning to ****. It's been years since I felt safe going there.
 
This was at some form of video game "competition"?

What a joke. The killer needs to PAY. Will be following.
 
This went down in my neck of the woods. Been to the Jacksonville Landing many, many times. There was a gang shooting there in January last year so many of us assumed it was another.

Not the case, it was a Madden Football gamer tournament. The loser got mad and went to his car and got a gun. Came back and started shooting. He killed 3 and wounded 11. Then the coward blew his own brains out.

Updates as I write this: White kid in his early 20's. Used a simi-auto pistol. May be in town from Baltimore for the tournament.

SAD! More proof we need to get these abominable video games out of these young people's hands and get them outside where they can learn of nature and interact with REAL people!!!
 
I live 35 miles SW of Jax.
My first reaction on hearing this news story was to contact my three adult children who live and work in Jax. All ok with them but this hit close to home.

Edit: Al Brown, former Mayor (D) of Jax is asking for removal of "these weapons of war".
I'm not sure that all the facts have been released yet, let alone what "weapon of war" was used, if any. But I'm relieved that our politicians are on top of the situation. ;(
 
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I also read about this shooting, with a great amount of disappointment and frustration.

When we older members were being raised we spent most of our time outside with friends and neighbors engaged in activities in which there were two or more people involved. We learned to deal with disagreements and differences of opinion including conflict resolution. We have utilized this knowledge and skills for our entire adult lives.

For the past 20-30 years it's been all about video games and hibernating in a room all by themselves. Young people have not acquired, developed, or mastered any of these important skills that we have. Far too many parents have concurrently abandoned their responsibilities for teaching and nurturing their children, from their birth and throughout their children's entire lives.

In today's world if there is a disagreement between people, no matter how trite, they start shooting or stabbing those with whom they have a disagreement.

Unfortunately, both Jacksonville and Atlanta are becoming just like Chicago, or worse. The media also may not be reporting the entire story, especially if there are mental health issues.

A better outcome would have evolved IF the shooter had committed suicide FIRST, before he started shooting at others!

Bill
 
Prayers for all involved...

I second that, SC_Mike.
There are those that say evil has always been with us to the degree that it is with us today. I sense that it is much worse, in that many places that I would enjoy visiting several decades ago are no longer safe.
I think we all need to assess the current events and try to find a solution. Praying is a very good first step. Seeking Divine intervention is not a sign of weakness.
 
I've studied the kids past interviews, his photos etc. Clearly he had a screw loose. As the video prophetically...ominously states below..."he takes gaming seriously, he is not here to make friends." Then there's the physical appearance of these shooters. I'm sorry, but this dude is just plain weird looking. I wouldn't trust him or want to associate with him based on his looks...alone.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC5hE0GfXqo[/ame]
 
This individual was the Madden champion in 2017. Not sure what happened yet but again video games are involved. We are raising a bunch of loner kids that sit in a room playing fantasy games be it football or some sort of combat where death and maiming are the norm.

I still say that it started when they took dodge ball out of the schools. We as kids learned that sometimes you win and sometimes you lose but we never thought of going to the gun closet and bringing a gun to school to settle any differences.

It will be interesting to see how this 24 year old got the gun. Was it his or a family members.

I grew up with guns in the house and shot in a .22 rifle league that won the NJ small bore rifle championship. We learned how to use a firearm and how to be safe.

Unfortunately, today's youth are not learning these lessons and when they can't deal with issues they are given Prozac and sent home. My youngest was prescribed Prozac when she was suffering some anxiety and depression as a result of my divorce. In later years they discovered that depression was a side affect of the drug. Really??????
 
ANOTHER NUT CASE, & NOT FROM FL.

FL just happened to be the location where he snapped. Pretty sure it would have/could have happened almost anywhere. IF history has shown anything, take away the guns & they will use bombs/ pressure cookers/ bio weapons/ cars/ trucks/ planes... You get the idea. HAS the media/ video games de-sensitized our youth to violence???? My parents stopped letting us watch the three stooges cuz they were too violent & kids copied some of their schtick. If I had the answers/solution, I'd be fartin thru silk. ;)
 
Large piles of folks who are blaming video games are no different and no better than folks blaming guns for these murders.

I'm 46 years old and grew up playing video games also, likely own more guns and send more down range than 80% of this active forum.

Everyone seeks a quick, clean answer when something horrific happens, but it isn't that easy. Scapegoating isn't your answer.
 
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