Anyone against this optic for the price range?

[Engineer1911]

Scope cost versus application

Barska has poor glass and severe image distortion in the scopes I've looked through -- a waste of money. I have an NCStar 8X x 24X x 50 mm on a Kimber Government 22 LR that gives excellent service. I would not put that scope on a 300 Win Mag. I have 3 Simmons (MidwayUSA) 6.5X x 20X x 50 mm mounted on 22 LR or HB 223 Rem. Again I am very satisfied with performance.

At the other end of cost, my Leupold 8.5X x 25X x 50 mm scope with a 30 mm tube is an incredible optic that cost ~$800 10 years ago. I bought it one year after Leupold put them on the market. It is on a Rem 700 308 Win custom rifle that is a tack driver, 11 # rifle with mild recoil. I have a Browning A-bolt, light tapered barrel, rechambered to 30-06 Ackley Improved that kicks like a Missouri mule, Leupold 4.5X x 14X x 50 mm again gives excellent service.

You get exactly what you pay for in optics. There are no bargains in low cost / high quality -- it just don't happen. But a clear, inexpensive scope can give good service when matched to mild recoiling rifle.

 

[Jswiney9]

You get exactly what you pay for in optics. There are no bargains in low cost / high quality -- it just don't happen. But a clear, inexpensive scope can give good service when matched to mild recoiling rifle.

ill take that bet, you seen redfields new line? for 170 dollars out the door i got a 3-9x50 that i shoot sub moa groups with out of my TC venture. i also took a pretty good whitetail with it at close to 170 yards.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I’m just going to keep harping on the fact that for a little over three hundred bucks you can find a new or used Eotech 512 AA battery model. Buy one once and you won’t have to replace it. I have seen these things used on M2 HB for regular use. They can take a beating. They have all kinds of add ons, GG&G makes a great set of dust covers for them, and LaRue makes some amazing quick detachable mounts for them. Save up the money and do it right the first time and you will have an optic that won’t die on you during use and you can always hot swap it to a different railed rifle at any time. I would far rather have one great optic than a few **** optics. For the money I have wasted on budget glass I could have even bought a couple of Aimpoints by now.

IMO, the choice of an optic is far more dependent on the type of rifle, conditions, type of shooting that is intended and user preference.

For the type of fair-weather range plinking I mostly do with the 15-22, I would much rather have my Primary Arms MicroDot than an EOTech 512 with AA batteries, even if the EOTech only cost a penny.

Here's why -

A. The PA with battery and QD riser is about half the weight of a 512.A65 with AA batteries. And if you slap on some type of QD mount on the 512, then you're getting into +1lb boat anchor territory for just a 1x red dot. IMO, one of the great things about the 15-22 is it's light weight compared to others in its class.

B. I find the 3MOA dot on the PA to be much better for bouncing around soda cans and shot shells at the range than a 65MOA ring with a 1MOA dot. I can't quickly pick up the EOTech 1MOA dot unless I crank up the power which flares out the dot and looks nasty compared to the PA 3MOA smooth edged dot at lower settings. I find the grainy bright 65MOA ring on the EOTech to be annoying, very annoying. The 65MOA ring is good for center mass quick acquisition of larger targets like humans, but I'm trying to bounce soda cans and shot shells around fast, not refrigerators.

C. The EOTech has crystal clear glass which the PA does not. However, I shoot during the day so there is little advantage. There's a little advantage with parallax but I never noticed any measured difference for the type shooting I do.

Side notes --

Older EOTech have a history of corrosion issues and failures. Even my next door neighbor's EOTech 512.A65 failed on him at the range due to corrosion. I offered to let him borrow a $29 BSA red dot that has held up for many tens of thousand of rounds for nearly a decade. He didn't find that amusing.

So thanks for the harping, but I'll pass on mounting an annoying grainy nasty flaring failing corroding boat anchor on my 15-22. Of course I offer that with a little jest, but overall I would much rather have a PA MicroDot on my 15-22 than an EOTech 512.

 

[Engineer1911]

Folks, I'll make a deal with you. You can have your AR15-22 dressed any way you want but let me keep my butt-naked [no rails, no lazer, no flashlight, no moon dial] Custom 10-22 with the Simmons (MidwayUSA) 6.5X x 20X x 50 mm scope on it. The play ground is big enough for everybody.

Any body want to shoot for $1 a point, 10 rounds, on a bullseye target at 100 yards?

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Folks, I'll make a deal with you. You can have your AR15-22 dressed any way you want but let me keep my butt-naked [no rails, no lazer, no flashlight, no moon dial] Custom 10-22 with the Simmons (MidwayUSA) 6.5X x 20X x 50 mm scope on it. The play ground is big enough for everybody.

Any body want to shoot for $1 a point, 10 rounds, on a bullseye target at 100 yards?

No thanks. I know what my 15-22 is capable of at 100yds.

As far as optics, I think the point here is that most any dime store optic will outperform most any recreational .22 rifle and ammo in repeatability.

 

[chuck s]

Inexpensive fixed power scopes are usually good enough on .22LR rifles. Inexpensive variable power scopes get dim, sometimes very dim, at the higher powers.

-- Chuck

 

[BXRandall]

Folks, I'll make a deal with you. You can have your AR15-22 dressed any way you want but let me keep my butt-naked [no rails, no lazer, no flashlight, no moon dial] Custom 10-22 with the Simmons (MidwayUSA) 6.5X x 20X x 50 mm scope on it. The play ground is big enough for everybody.

Any body want to shoot for $1 a point, 10 rounds, on a bullseye target at 100 yards?

would you let me use my rem 290 instead? heh it's an old cheapy but it shoots really well!


i actually haven't shot my 15-22 at 100yrds yet. i have ordered the PA DMS equivalent for one of mine and I am very interested in seeing what it can do. will update you concerning this bet after the optics and gun dialed in!

 

[riderrick65]

Anyone against this optic for the price range? I have been reading all the posts here concerning the price of scopes and thought I would chime in and give my .02 cents worth. First off I would like to say this 15/22 is the coolest thing since sliced bread! At the time I made my purchase from Cabella"s I also invested in a Bushnell 1x28 Trophy Series Red Dot for $120.
It has 4 reticles and a 11 postion brightness control. After a couple trips to the range I was not comfortable with the way the scope was lining up with eye placement, so I ordered a pair of UTG QD 30mm Hi-Profile scope rings, Wa-La! this made a big improvment and at this time I am quite pleased with the way things turned out. Since I only shoot at the range @ 25yds. I feel this scope is suited to my needs quite nicely :>)