Anyone else load black powder cartridges?

Andy Griffith

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I've gotten lately into shooting more holy black than anything else. .44-40, .44 Special, .38 special and .45 Colt and shotsehlls have gotten me hooked into shooting blackpowder.

I seem to get better groups from black than some of the other powders I've tried, as well as more recoil. :D

Just didn't know if anyone else loads a lot of holy black loads?
 
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I keep thinking of giving it a try in .45 Colt in the Blackhawk. I have yet to try it though.
 
I shot lots of it, from the 38-40 on up thru the 50-90. I get quite a load of fun from it.... Accuracy can be impressive as you mention.

I've done a bit of hunting with it as well.

Just put in an order for some more powder yesterday.

ward
 
I've shot a few thousand .45 bp rounds in my Colt Single Action Army. Like the song says........"Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing".
 
I shoot it almost exclusively in my Ruger Blackhawk 45 colt. I also have a Sharps 45/70 that has never even seen a smokeless powder round!
 
I am a "Wantabee" at this point but very interested in shooting a BP cartridge. I plan to buy a Oberti or Cimarron. Can't afford a real Colt SAA. I have been trying to get as much info as possible so that I make the correct decision about caliber when I buy. Leaning toward having the new guy chambered for .357 so I can shoot .38 Special loaded with BP. I see you mention that you load and shoot .38 Special so I am interested in your experiences and recommendation.

Jim
 
My very first handgun was a Uberti 1851 replica Navy Colt cap and ball . It was reloading without the case but was black powder. Got another replica a 1861 Army cap and ball. Those are fun to shoot and accurate to boot.
The only cartridge rounds I have loaded were 38 S&W for use in a top break S&W DA 4 th model. The old top break design had me leery of smokeless and I didn't want to damage anything. All the rounds fired and hit things and the gun is in one piece so I guess it were a successful experiment.
Gary
 
Cartridges I presently load with the Holy Black: .45-70, 11mm Mauser, .44 S&W Special, .44 S&W Russian, and .38 W.C.F. Oh, and 12-Gauge shotgun. And just in case paper cartridges count, .52 Sharps.

Jim
 
Lots of cartridge and shotshell loading w/BP over the years. More recently I've been using CleanShot (American Pioneer) sub.
I just ran short of the real stuff a while back and did happen upon a quantity of this.
I like it in the cartridge arms as it doesn't foul things up at all like BP does. You can shoot a hundred rounds and never have fouling be a problem with the mechanics,,there isn't any.

Taking a Win97, 73 or early Webley completely apart all the time to get it clean of all the corrosive fouling is a pain.
The novelty of historical shooting wears thin after a few wash & scrub sessions for me.
Still keep & use the real stuff for the muzzle loaders.
 
Lots of cartridge and shotshell loading w/BP over the years. More recently I've been using CleanShot (American Pioneer) sub.
I just ran short of the real stuff a while back and did happen upon a quantity of this.
I like it in the cartridge arms as it doesn't foul things up at all like BP does. You can shoot a hundred rounds and never have fouling be a problem with the mechanics,,there isn't any.

Taking a Win97, 73 or early Webley completely apart all the time to get it clean of all the corrosive fouling is a pain.
The novelty of historical shooting wears thin after a few wash & scrub sessions for me.
Still keep & use the real stuff for the muzzle loaders.




2 true. I hate the clean up. Taking the gun apart, scrubing etc. However, do like the 45-70 Marlin with the black.
 
I shoot Black Powder in SASS in my cap & ball guns, 44-40's shotgun etc.
and thoroughly enjoy it.

What puzzles me is why REAL black powder is far more consistent and much more accurate than the synthetics....

Anyone have a good answer on that one? I don't get it....

Randy
 
I shoot Black Powder in SASS in my cap & ball guns, 44-40's shotgun etc.
and thoroughly enjoy it.

What puzzles me is why REAL black powder is far more consistent and much more accurate than the synthetics....

Anyone have a good answer on that one? I don't get it....

Randy

I've seen some people shoot some fantastic one hole groups with in-line muzzle loaders & sabot bullets using sub-powders, usually the pellets.

I can get 'acceptable' accuracy with the sub (powder form) in a percussion M/Loader cap lock traditional and in cartridge firearms like a 73.
But I can't get the kind of groups they get. They are using 'scopes though and I stick to my iron sites.

But as you say real BP always seemed to beat the subs at least for me in shrinking the groups and elliminating the occasional flyers.
I just don't enjoy the cartridge gun teardown and clean up sessions anymore.
It's part of the job when it comes to traditional muzzle loaders and actually isn't all that bad with them as they're simple compared to a pump, lever action or revolver.

I ended up putting a BP 45acp through a Colt 1911 once.

I had loaded them for a Webley MkIV that had a shaved cylinder but the rounds found their way into another box.
After one went through and the pistol functioned fine,,I shot a couple magazines of the BP rounds through it just for fun.
I figured one or more than one,,didn't make much difference. It had to be taken apart and cleaned anyway.
Not bad on the accuracy either..and you could hide behind the smoke screen if you had too.

It's all fun. I'm just glad we can still find enough of anything to still shoot.
 
The "Holy Black" is a loaded in 12 and 20 shotguns, often in brass shells. The sealing of the shot has been the big problem. Above the "over shot card" I seal the shells with gutter seam sealer, this needs to cure for about 10-14 days before using. I shot a batch that was cured only 3 days, It took a hour and a half to clean the goo out of each barrel on my SXS after a BP sporting clays shoot. Normally the clean up is about 15 or 20 min. per barrel. I put 1 large glass of hot water in the toilet bowl after a couple of min I add about a gallon of hot water (this keeps from cracking the toilet). This is then used to scrub the BP out of barrel, the filthy water is just flushed away. This method has resulted in less fuss from the wife about clean-up around the house. By the way, brass shells used with BP should be soaked in a jug of wind shield washer fluid (50/50), straight water sets the sulfur stains. I load 45/70 BP for a Shiloh Sharps also. Accuracy and fouling are always a problem. I use SPG bullet lube, a friend has recommended to then dip the nose it a tin of Crisco (I'll be trying that this spring). On cap and ball revolvers, in cool weather; I cover the end of the chamber with Crisco after normal loading. In hot weather; I use a felt wad and a layer of Crisco under the ball, to keep from having the "Drips". Ivan
 
I used to use my wife's nail polish for the bp shotshells as sealer- it works perfectly! I can't shake it loose no matter what.

The problem is, I used all hers, and had to buy my own.
I sure got some funny looks buying four or five of the 99 cent nail polish at the drug store. :o
 
I load .45 Colt and 45/70 with genuine black powder. I use GOEX CTG-grade if I can get it , but usually mix 2Fg and 3Fg when the cans get low. Bullets are straight wheelweights (water quenched) and I swear by SPG bullet lube.

I also use nickeled cases for my BP loads exclusively in those calibers. Positively identifies them and makes clean-up easy.
 
I used to use my wife's nail polish for the bp shotshells as sealer- it works perfectly! I can't shake it loose no matter what.

The problem is, I used all hers, and had to buy my own.
I sure got some funny looks buying four or five of the 99 cent nail polish at the drug store. :o


Great idea, i have to test that.

By the way, You know that i mostly use the Holy Black ;)
Just wish i could find a nice cheap (:o) lever action to go with the rest of my arsenal.
 
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