OK, well, you could well be correct. I plead guilty here to simply parroting what I have read or heard. Thank you for the correction.
Anyone Have Any Russian or "ComBlock" Firearms to Share?
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OK, well, you could well be correct. I plead guilty here to simply parroting what I have read or heard. Thank you for the correction.
I don't know if kit guns count, but here are three that I built in my shop about 4 years ago. Pictures taken before parkerizing and then Teflon/moly paint.
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Mexican Kerry
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Here's another entry from Chicom heaven, these rifles are relatively cheap here but the price has been increasing lately. More Norinco clones, both gone now. I regret selling the 18.5" "SOCOM" as they were called, it was a pretty handy rifle for a heavy 7.62 base. But I have a buddy who really wanted it and he was willing to trade straight across for his new Gen 3 Glock 21 with a bunch of mags (I have a soft spot for that particular piece of tupperware).
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Les, if you're interested in just touching up the CZ's scratches, time and again I see a fella (Walt Sherill) saying there's a duplicolor (a specific matte black), that is (practically) identical to the original finish. I've read several posts he's made on various forums (I've found it via google easily), and he lists the actual product # of the paint in question, and the way he's found best to apply it.
He says he gets it in spray can since it's thinner, then sprays an amount onto some tin foil as a reservoir. Then use a small hobbyist paint brush to apply, let it cure for a few hours, then lightly scuff with sandpaper to blend it in. Later oil as you would the rest of the gun.
He's posted photos and the results look great, you'd never know it was a touchup. If I remember, the one I saw him post had a chip the size of a quarter, and afterwards it wasn't visible. Before this offends any refinishing purists, keep in mind: the original CZ finish was basically an enamel, and you're simply filling in the imperfections with more enamel.
My son's has a couple small chips and some scratches, mine has one big chip on the back of the grip strap (my 82 has one on the front of the grip strap). As stated, there is a light gray parkerizing under the polycoat or enamel, that does just fine at protecting the steel. I've thought about doing that myself, but haven't gotten around to it, as the guns look fine to me.
It's a sub-$10 option, for aesthetic purposes, on a gun that is probably already as well protected as a park'd 1911.
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Warren:
Well, if it weren't for "kit" guns, we wouldn't have a lot of the variations that we have today. Import restrictions on full auto guns, even on the semi-auto variations and even on the parts kits now... Crazy ban on barrels for the parts kits and so forth, yes we would love to see guns made from parts kits. (I said it that way so the S&W collectors won't get mad at me... I have a S&W "Kit" gun myself!).
Anyway, you must have a great shop... Those are very professionally finished kits. Nice job, and they look great.
Thanks for sharing with us,
Best Regards, Les
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Thanks for the look at how the Chinese made clones of one of our favorites turned out. Those are both nice looking rifles.
Best Regards, Les
Here is a v/z 52 of mine. It was a bedliner special with an old stock that was so busted up I was scared of shooting it. I bought this stock from a guy in NY state. Very minor fitting was required. It's a shame with all the
ammo makers that no one makes 7.62 X 45. Very well made guns.
Hdhic aka Cliff.
ammo makers that no one makes 7.62 X 45. Very well made guns.
Hdhic aka Cliff.
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Warren:
That's another unusual one from behind the "Iron Curtain"!! I am amazed at the response to this thread, and the variety of firearms that we have seen, of all vintages and calibers.
Best Regards, Les
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I've been trying to find time to post a few more "ComBlock" guns. To go with the four Makarovs that I have already shown, here are three more that use the same cartridge. Even those allied countries who chose not to use the Makarov design fielded handguns chambered for the same round.
Polish P 64
Hungarian PA 63
Czechoslavian CZ 82
These each come with distinctive holsters, which also differ from the standardized Makarov holster. I don't know about today, but back about 2004, I was crossing the border between Austria and Hungary on a bus, and the border gaurds who came aboard the bus were wearing the same holsters and carrying the same PA 63 as shown above.
Best Regards, Les
Polish P 64
Hungarian PA 63
Czechoslavian CZ 82
These each come with distinctive holsters, which also differ from the standardized Makarov holster. I don't know about today, but back about 2004, I was crossing the border between Austria and Hungary on a bus, and the border gaurds who came aboard the bus were wearing the same holsters and carrying the same PA 63 as shown above.
Best Regards, Les
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Bob R
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Polish WZ-48 .22 Training rifle. Loosley mimics the Mosin Nagant M38 but with a 1920 style Mauser action.
Very soft shooting, which at over 8 pounds it should be, and has surprising accuracy. The rear sight is graduated in 5M increments from 25M out to 100M.
bob
Very soft shooting, which at over 8 pounds it should be, and has surprising accuracy. The rear sight is graduated in 5M increments from 25M out to 100M.
bob
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Bulgy AK74. My hog killing gun.
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Nice AK-74. I think that the Bulgarians came about the closest to duplicating the original Russian designs, whether it be Makarovs or Kalashnikovs. They produce a quality product, and one that we have been able to import in reasonable quantities, without too much "bureaucratic modification".
That is a beauty, and thanks for sharing it with us here.
Best Regards, Les
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Polish WZ-48 .22 Training rifle. Loosley mimics the Mosin Nagant M38 but with a 1920 style Mauser action.
Very soft shooting, which at over 8 pounds it should be, and has surprising accuracy. The rear sight is graduated in 5M increments from 25M out to 100M.
bob
Bob:
Thanks for sharing your really nice Polish WZ-48. That is one sweet looking rifle!! That's another that I can't recall seeing. There was plenty of innovation going on in the old Warsaw Pact countries.
Best Regards, Les
dabney
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Oh Les, what a great post subject matter you have started sir. I'm away from the home front but later I will post some pictures of some Cold War blasters that I picked up along the way. Since the prices, in days gone by, were cheap on most Cold War surplus arms, I was able to indulge myself somewhat with these listed Communist blasters;
(2) Tokarevs (1-Chinese & 1-Rumanian)
(8) Nagant Revolvers (different time periods)
(1) Chinese Mosin-Nagant Carbine
(1) Russian Mosin-Nagant 91/30
In the late 80's, one could get a very good plus Mosin-Nagant Czarist Rifle for $29.95 from CAI. I bought many and allowed most to get away through trades later on. Will post pictures later. Thanks for a great original post Les!
David
(2) Tokarevs (1-Chinese & 1-Rumanian)
(8) Nagant Revolvers (different time periods)
(1) Chinese Mosin-Nagant Carbine
(1) Russian Mosin-Nagant 91/30
In the late 80's, one could get a very good plus Mosin-Nagant Czarist Rifle for $29.95 from CAI. I bought many and allowed most to get away through trades later on. Will post pictures later. Thanks for a great original post Les!
David
LedFowl
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Hungarian FEG P9
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