Anyone Have Any Russian or "ComBlock" Firearms to Share?
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Here is something from Magadan in the Russian Far East, but not a weapon in any sense of the word!
Relatives of a Russian friend of mine were here a few months ago. She could barely speak a word of English, but through others explained that she wanted to ride in my Jeep with the doors and roof removed. She also asked if she could drive it, and of course I let her.
She was tall, slim and good looking, and she moved with incredible grace. (sigh...........)
Relatives of a Russian friend of mine were here a few months ago. She could barely speak a word of English, but through others explained that she wanted to ride in my Jeep with the doors and roof removed. She also asked if she could drive it, and of course I let her.
She was tall, slim and good looking, and she moved with incredible grace. (sigh...........)
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scoobysnacker
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Ok, I said I would find some pictures to post
I have an affection for the 9x18 round, as many others do in this thread. Like has been noted, there is a tremendous amount of history tied to these little pistols! Also noted, these are great bargains, when you consider the quality of the gun vs the cost to obtain (at least, a couple years back).
Here are my P64, PA 63, CZ 82, and East German Makarov. There is no rust on any, the red is something the camera put in. I have since replaced the left grip on the PA 63 with a "correct" style, made by Tillander- it perfectly matches the right grip.
Since we're able to go beyond just military, here's a commercial Baikal double stack I found at a pawn shop for under $200. It needed a firing pin, which was as easy to replace as a grip screw (gotta love the Russian emphasis on workability)
I have an affection for the 9x18 round, as many others do in this thread. Like has been noted, there is a tremendous amount of history tied to these little pistols! Also noted, these are great bargains, when you consider the quality of the gun vs the cost to obtain (at least, a couple years back).
Here are my P64, PA 63, CZ 82, and East German Makarov. There is no rust on any, the red is something the camera put in. I have since replaced the left grip on the PA 63 with a "correct" style, made by Tillander- it perfectly matches the right grip.
Since we're able to go beyond just military, here's a commercial Baikal double stack I found at a pawn shop for under $200. It needed a firing pin, which was as easy to replace as a grip screw (gotta love the Russian emphasis on workability)
Having had a Maadi, Norinco and Polytech, I cant help but like a good AK.
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scoobysnacker
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Les, if you appreciate the CZ 75 as pictured above (as I do), then I strongly encourage you to check into the current crop that Cole's Distributing (CDIsales) has on Gunbroker.
I bought my first CZ 75 a few years back from another vendor, and love it (it's my personal favorite and the last I would ever sell). My son also does, so since he's coming of an age to start getting his own, I thought to pre-emptively get him one, before he ran off with mine
I did a thread on the one I got him, I am thoroughly impressed with it. For right at $300, we got one made in '89, with some finish wear. All numbers match, barrel is sharp, gun has Czechoslovakia marked on it. It came in filthy, but a can of brake cleaner fixed that.
The beauty of the Cole's guns vs the other importers, they stamp their import mark on the left side of the barrel, not on the frame or slide. Until you break it down to clean it, you literally never know it's an import.
It shot fine, I still changed the recoil spring just for the heck of it. It now runs as well as you could ask of any gun, very accurate.
And the finish wear- like my son said, "character". And the CZ was made tough- the steel was parkerized before the final polycoat/enamel finish was applied, there is no actual harm to the steel, just some chipping of the paint in spots. One day, we're going to have both of ours stripped, polished and rust-blued, but for now they remain working beauties.
Arik
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That has been a long running myth that has been debunked. It was like the myth of the triangle 1 symbol. .. /1\ ...meaning that the rifle went to E. Germany. Turned out it was just a refurbishing facility in Russia
Nice rifles though
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^^^ What myth are you referring to???
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Warren:
Yes, those look like the watches that I bought. A couple seem identical. I'll have to round them up and take a couple of photos of them. One of the makers was "Vostock" in Cyrillic: "Восток", and their trademark was a "B" in a circle, sort of like the @ sign, if you replaced the "a" with a "B". I see it on one of your watches. There are many watch and clock manufacturers though.
Best Regards, Les
Arik
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Maadis made/helped made by Russians. Even the machinery is suspect.
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Ok, I said I would find some pictures to post
I have an affection for the 9x18 round, as many others do in this thread. Like has been noted, there is a tremendous amount of history tied to these little pistols! Also noted, these are great bargains, when you consider the quality of the gun vs the cost to obtain (at least, a couple years back).
Here are my P64, PA 63, CZ 82, and East German Makarov. There is no rust on any, the red is something the camera put in. I have since replaced the left grip on the PA 63 with a "correct" style, made by Tillander- it perfectly matches the right grip.
Since we're able to go beyond just military, here's a commercial Baikal double stack I found at a pawn shop for under $200. It needed a firing pin, which was as easy to replace as a grip screw (gotta love the Russian emphasis on workability)
scoobysnacker:
Thanks for posting your cool ComBlock guns here. I too have several of the 9x18 Makarov caliber handguns, and they were among the first that I was able to obtain. I think it was back in the 80s, and I found a Chinese Mak. The only ammo that I could find at that time was Chinese military surplus, which came in little cardboard boxes with 16 rounds? I can't remember now, but I think so, and they were all separated by dividers and a real pain to get out of the box. Berdan primed of course, so no reloading.
We've come a long way since then, and the ammo is pretty much mainstream now, Americans are making it, lots of good imported, reloads LE ammo available.
Thanks for posting, keep checking back.
Best Regards, Les
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Warren:
Nice AKs. Of course that is one of the most popular of the EastBlock guns, and I hope we'll see lots of variations!! Those two are nice!
I'm starting to feel bad, I have only posted like 4 of my own guns so far, I'm going to have to get busy. School starts next week, but I'll have to be there all this week, so won't have as much time to play with the computer as I did all summer!! I'm excited about this thread, though, so I'm trying to keep in touch.
Best Regards, Les
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Les, if you appreciate the CZ 75 as pictured above (as I do), then I strongly encourage you to check into the current crop that Cole's Distributing (CDIsales) has on Gunbroker.
I bought my first CZ 75 a few years back from another vendor, and love it (it's my personal favorite and the last I would ever sell). My son also does, so since he's coming of an age to start getting his own, I thought to pre-emptively get him one, before he ran off with mine
I did a thread on the one I got him, I am thoroughly impressed with it. For right at $300, we got one made in '89, with some finish wear. All numbers match, barrel is sharp, gun has Czechoslovakia marked on it. It came in filthy, but a can of brake cleaner fixed that.
The beauty of the Cole's guns vs the other importers, they stamp their import mark on the left side of the barrel, not on the frame or slide. Until you break it down to clean it, you literally never know it's an import.
It shot fine, I still changed the recoil spring just for the heck of it. It now runs as well as you could ask of any gun, very accurate.
And the finish wear- like my son said, "character". And the CZ was made tough- the steel was parkerized before the final polycoat/enamel finish was applied, there is no actual harm to the steel, just some chipping of the paint in spots. One day, we're going to have both of ours stripped, polished and rust-blued, but for now they remain working beauties.
Scoobysnacker:
Thanks for the tip. I have been checking them out just now. If I were to get one, I think I'd leave it original. My CZ 82 has the same paint like finish, and while it's not the most esthetic, it is original, and I try to stay with the original look with these guns. I wonder if there is a cerakote finish which mimics the original baked enamel or whatever it is finish the Czechs use?
Thanks again...
Best Regards, Les
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I have a Yugo SKS and a Russian M-44:
mic214:
Nice relics of the "Cold War"!!! Those are two classic examples of Communist technology and arms building that remain classic and timeless. Thanks for sharing with us!
Best Regards, Les
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Arik
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What do you teach?
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Arik:
I guess that question was for me. I have been teaching Criminal Justice full time for the last 20 years at a local university and community college. I was an adjunct, or part time teacher for 18 years before that, while working full time in law enforcement.
Best Regards, Les
