Anyone heard this rumor?

[Ogandydancer]

I saw this posted on another board but, it was really sketchy and, not much detail.

There is apparently a rumor going around that the FBI is going to switch calibers again and probably going from the 40 S&W to 9mm. Just wondering if anyone has heard this rumor or if it is fact and not rumor and if it is fact what they will be going to.

 

[WR Moore]

When did they adopt the .49 S&W?

 

[Ogandydancer]

When did they adopt the .49 S&W?

Sorry mistype should be 40S&W

 

[Calaveras Slim]

Years ago, the FBI went from the 9 to the 40. They found that the 9 wasn't enough gun. Why would they switch back?

 

[Ptarnuzzer]

I read a recent article somewhere that said a lot of agencies, both federal and state were considering going back to 9mm. They sighted the reason as cost, the 9mm is cheaper. I guess budget trumps ballistics!

 

[O2Guy]

Maybe they're going back to 10mm. Hahahaha

 

[worm5932]

Thought they shot 357 Sig.

 

[pownal55]

They should go back to 357 magnum.

 

[Wee Hooker]

I would find it hard to believe that their would be significant cost savings in switching from 40 to 9. By the time they are done with all the contracting, planning, training, and buying of new 9mm handguns, magazines, (maybe even) holsters.... Ammo cost savings will be upside down. Of course, having worked for the federal government, I'll say that none of this oversight would surprise me.

Personally, I would think that a switch to the 357 sig would be a better and cheaper option if they feel change is needed.

 

[Bill_inBouse]

I think they should go back to being unarmed...period (as someone else would say)

 

[thebeamanater107]

Years ago, the FBI went from the 9 to the 40. They found that the 9 wasn't enough gun. Why would they switch back?

Better advances in guns and bullet technology. There's nothing wrong in my opinion with the 9mm. It works fine. In the early 90s it was a different story.

Granted, I don't care what they carry because I'm not gunfighting them.

That's all opinion based off what others claim as facts. I didn't research it.

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[Faulkner]

There is a rumor about this on the internet?

 

[lonejacklarry]

There is a rumor about this on the internet?

Say it isn't so!

 

[BJoe]

I read a recent article somewhere that said a lot of agencies, both federal and state were considering going back to 9mm. They sighted the reason as cost, the 9mm is cheaper. I guess budget trumps ballistics!

Also it is BULLET CONSTRUCTION. 15-20 years ago, Unless you could find and afford Super Vel ammo, you were limited to 115gr FMJ PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! Today 9mm ammo is as good as anything out there.

 

[growr]

So...what will they do with the billions of .40 ammo already ordered?

 

[CatSnipah]

There is a rumor about this on the internet?

Uh, BONJOUR!

 

[Smoke]

So...what will they do with the billions of .40 ammo already ordered?

Sell it at DRMO?

 

[mbliss57]

They should go back or revisit the 10mm. They did not go to 40S&W because it was too stout a round as many have said. From retired FBI agents I have talked to from that period it was almost all politics within the FBI & S&W.
Many FBI agents bought the 10mm 1076 from S&W in 1992/1993 after they were returned from Quantico.
Maybe too much info for this thread... to answer OPs question I have not heard that.

 

[curtmini14]

it dosent matter what they shot 100 shots with 2 hits thats funny stuff.

 

[jdh]

So...what will they do with the billions of .40 ammo already ordered?

You mean the existing contracts to allow them to buy up to a certain amount at a fixed price over the next few years? There is no billion round stock pile of unused ammo sitting around in a government warehouse to keep it out of the hands of citizens or drive the price up.

 

[M3Stuart]

Maybe they should stress marksmanship over caliber and not care what caliber gun the agents carry.

But then, that's not a rumor I heard on the internet so it can't be true.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

There is a rumor about this on the internet?

Say it isn't so!

I think that's the one I started on the High Point forum.......

 

[roundgunner]

You mean the existing contracts to allow them to buy up to a certain amount at a fixed price over the next few years? There is no billion round stock pile of unused ammo sitting around in a government warehouse to keep it out of the hands of citizens or drive the price up.

You can believe whatever you want.

 

[pownal55]

The 10mm might be a good option but from what I have read it doesn't offer much advantage over the 40 unless you handload.

 

[SweetMK]

The 10mm might be a good option but from what I have read it doesn't offer much advantage over the 40 unless you handload.

I thought the main downside of a 10MM was the longer case made the gun less suitable to small hands?

The true rumor is the FBI is going to a rimfire.

The rimfire will eliminate the availability of brass for reloading.

 

[A10]

I think they should carry flamethrowers.

 

[mc5aw]

I recently heard a rumor than a generous philanthropist in a red suit travels the globe once a year leaving toys for children.

 

[Doug M.]

It is not a rumor. I have seen this report: pistol-training.com » Blog Archive » FBI & 9mm, and it has been confirmed by a couple of very knowledgeable people in the terminal ballistics/training field.

The 1076 was an utter failure for the Bureau. They had a lot of trouble with the platform (as did my agency when we had 1076s), and they were too big for the average plainclothes assignment. Remember that the FBI is not a police agency, so a uniformed duty size pistol is a fail.

There is a lot of information available about the lack of difference in performance between the common service calibers, and remember that a pistol is what you carry when you have no reason to expect a problem. Pistol rounds suck for fighting. A rifle is what one takes if a fight could be predicted.

If they are at a point at which the replacement of pistols is coming anyway, the savings in ammo cost is 20%+, with no change in ballistic performance, and better shooting performance by the agents. A win all the way around, if they get a platform that doesn't stink.

 

[Aticus]

I saw this posted on another board but, it was really sketchy and, not much detail.

There is apparently a rumor going around that the FBI is going to switch calibers again and probably going from the 49 S&W to 9mm. Just wondering if anyone has heard this rumor or if it is fact and not rumor and if it is fact what they will be going to.

If you saw it on the internet you know it's true. They can't put anything on the internet that isn't true.

 

[LouisianaJoe]

I think that's the one I started on the High Point forum.......

Is there a High Point forum? If so, what are you doing there? Traitor!