Like Kaaskop49 and two-bit cowboy, I have a Model 60 Lady Smith but unlike some others here, I find the recoil a little on the "stout" side. Like "baseball bat to the hand" stout. Perhaps this is due to the 357`s I fired having been 158gr and just maybe 110`s or 125`s wouldn`t be so bad. I find 38 Special +P to be a good balance of power and shootability though. It is good to know that it`s built for full-power 357`s so with 38`s you`ll likely never shoot it to pieces. Just my 2 cents...
Anyone here have a M-60...
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I have a 60-10. When I first got it the first thing I did was shoot a box of 38's through it then about 6 cylinders of 158 gr 357. Have to say it will get your attention, but did not find it uncomfortable at all.
My first one (now belongs to my sister in law) I never shot 357 out of it. Buy the gun!!!! A 3" J frame is very concealable, makes a great kit gun and even if you only shoot 357 out of it once, you can pound any 38 load you want down the tube without worrying about it.
I love mine and will hang on to this one forever.
Just think of it as a mini 686.
My first one (now belongs to my sister in law) I never shot 357 out of it. Buy the gun!!!! A 3" J frame is very concealable, makes a great kit gun and even if you only shoot 357 out of it once, you can pound any 38 load you want down the tube without worrying about it.
I love mine and will hang on to this one forever.
Just think of it as a mini 686.
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I have a very tender spot for beautiful revolvers, especially S&W revolvers, even more especially the Chief's Special and the Model 27. And many posters here have S&W revolvers that cause my soft spot to become vulnerable to sentimental purchases, which is a good thing.
The Chief's Special oughta be on Mount Rushmore as an American icon. But the reality is it's a very poor choice for bipedal self-defense. To reach that conclusion, one has to begin with human biology and human incapacity.
While death is often the outcome of gunfights, it's not the objective. The primary objective has to be survival of good guys. The only known way to survive is to not get into gunfights. If that's not an option, one cannot take a bad guy's rounds. That means a good guy MUST get the heck outta a bad guy's sight picture. Taking precise aim at a bad guy would make a good guy an easy target for a bad guy.
Absent a CNS hit, which is almost always the outcome of luck, human incapacity is a done deal when oxygenated blood no longer flows topside. All death is defined by lack of brain activity. Humans must have topside oxygenated blood flow to remain alive. The problem for good guys is reducing a bad guy's blood pressure to zero takes a lot of precious time, time that accords bad guys ability to kill good guys. And here we haven't considered the probability of a bad guy's use of drugs that skew incapacity. A human being with a heart no longer beating will live another 8 seconds, which is plenty of time to take a good guy with him. Hence, my preference for BIG holes that cause a lot of bleeding.
We've been considering just one bad guy, which would be unlikely in cities of America. Bad guys rarely do bad things alone. The reality is a good guy, upon ID'ing one bad guy, must scan for his buddy, or more assuredly, his buddies. This is where the Chief's Special, all revolvers for that matter, become huge liabilities. The longer it takes to prevent one bad guy from putting rounds on a good guy, the more likely one of his buddies will kill a good guy. If muzzle flash, recoil, or disorienting muzzle blast takes a good guy's gun's muzzle off of a threat, he'll know tactical disadvantage. Hence, my preference for the FBI Load, even in .357 Mag revolvers.
The Chief's Special is a beautiful handgun, in either blued or stainless, but it has severe limitations that can cause a good guy to be autopsied.
As much as I love the Chief's Special, I'd take a Sig P239 in .40 S&W every single time, except where I can conceal a Sig P229 in .40 S&W.
The Chief's Special oughta be on Mount Rushmore as an American icon. But the reality is it's a very poor choice for bipedal self-defense. To reach that conclusion, one has to begin with human biology and human incapacity.
While death is often the outcome of gunfights, it's not the objective. The primary objective has to be survival of good guys. The only known way to survive is to not get into gunfights. If that's not an option, one cannot take a bad guy's rounds. That means a good guy MUST get the heck outta a bad guy's sight picture. Taking precise aim at a bad guy would make a good guy an easy target for a bad guy.
Absent a CNS hit, which is almost always the outcome of luck, human incapacity is a done deal when oxygenated blood no longer flows topside. All death is defined by lack of brain activity. Humans must have topside oxygenated blood flow to remain alive. The problem for good guys is reducing a bad guy's blood pressure to zero takes a lot of precious time, time that accords bad guys ability to kill good guys. And here we haven't considered the probability of a bad guy's use of drugs that skew incapacity. A human being with a heart no longer beating will live another 8 seconds, which is plenty of time to take a good guy with him. Hence, my preference for BIG holes that cause a lot of bleeding.
We've been considering just one bad guy, which would be unlikely in cities of America. Bad guys rarely do bad things alone. The reality is a good guy, upon ID'ing one bad guy, must scan for his buddy, or more assuredly, his buddies. This is where the Chief's Special, all revolvers for that matter, become huge liabilities. The longer it takes to prevent one bad guy from putting rounds on a good guy, the more likely one of his buddies will kill a good guy. If muzzle flash, recoil, or disorienting muzzle blast takes a good guy's gun's muzzle off of a threat, he'll know tactical disadvantage. Hence, my preference for the FBI Load, even in .357 Mag revolvers.
The Chief's Special is a beautiful handgun, in either blued or stainless, but it has severe limitations that can cause a good guy to be autopsied.
As much as I love the Chief's Special, I'd take a Sig P239 in .40 S&W every single time, except where I can conceal a Sig P229 in .40 S&W.
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S&WsRsweet
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My dad was a retired police officer with 32 years on the job and started as beat walking patrolman and retired capt detective.He could own and carry any firearm he wanted and owned an extensive collection he told me onc if he had to own only one handgun he would go with his last purchase which was a 3 inch m60 with adjustable sights and in 357 mag ,he carried and used it as a heavy duty 38 ,He as stated by sa1911 carried the FBI load exclusively for self defense but he would carry 357s in it when he went for strolls out in the sticks as he put it ,he actually liked the idea of the lock as he only kept one handgun loaded not in his safe and he didn't have to worry about the grand kids or their friends ,he kept his Remington 870 loaded as a home defense gun with a locked action ,you have a great gun the three inch with adjustable sights will give you plenty of precision and with 38s you will enjoy shooting it to get plenty of practice and become dangerously proficient to a bad guy or 4 and it will make a great trail gun if you like the outdoors ,you can use mild wad cutters to introduce new shooters to the sport just an outstanding all around firearm congratulations on being wise enough to buy it .Ok I'll add that once again sa1911 makes a great point avoiding the OK corrall if you think the're is a gunfight happening is the best thing and round count is limited in any revolver but ,the da revolver is the easiest one handed gun to reload if one of your hands is incapacitated also it's easier to explain how to load an shoot it to a non gun person in a hurry if needs be also the bad in a gunfight doesn't care where his missed rounds go but if you areva good guy especially in an urban environment if you fire 12,or 13 rounds and make contact with say 2 bad guys with 3 hits each you can bet you will be held accountable for where the other 6 or 7 rounds went especially if you hit an innocent bystander and yes you have to put yourself in the line of sight of a bad guy to see him whether you are shooting and automatic or revolver or shotgun for hat matter to my thinking yes a high round count automatic is a great weapon but you had better be well trained and calm enough to use it properly as you can unload one very very fast especially in a life threatening situation and you are the only one who knows yourself good enough to know how you will probabaly react in that situation ( not how you hope you will react ) I only been in one gunfight if you call it that as I was hiding as far under a parked automobile as I could get by the time I got my firearm ( a revolver ) drawn and got up the bad guy was running away ( answer to my prayer) .Anyway I was pretty well trained on revolvers and not so much on auts so ror me the revolver is the best choice and safest for myself and the general public ,the fact is most folks don't think where are all 12or 13 rounds going if I miss the bad guy even once so high cal autos while very good aren't the end all be all for all or even th majority of regular ( read non military or police and some private security trained ) folks . Not knocking automatics at all just I think we need to be realistic with our own abilities as round count or power doesn't make up for lack of training or ability .
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mrchuck
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I carry this weapon with 357's in it.
Yes it recoils more than a 38 Special at the range.
But when the adrenal rush kicks in when you have a perp on the ground at gunpoint,and then he jumps up to attack you,you will NOT even feel the recoil nor the sound.
The .357 Magnum is a proven man stopper.
Yes it recoils more than a 38 Special at the range.
But when the adrenal rush kicks in when you have a perp on the ground at gunpoint,and then he jumps up to attack you,you will NOT even feel the recoil nor the sound.
The .357 Magnum is a proven man stopper.
Targets Guy
US Veteran
I have a Model 60-15.
Groo01
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Groo here
Du !!!!!!!!
Du !!!!!!!!
Thanks for all the replies. I just had to buy the gun. It is larger than my little 637 but I wanted a gun with adj sights for carrying mainly around the farm/ranch. Easier to carry in my chest pocket in my coat I have a 19 and a 66 and a 686 all in 4 inch but they really don't fit that pocket for quickly getting it out. I want something a little more flat shooting than a 45. I missed a coyote a week or three ago with my 45 at about 35 yds or so. Have a bunch of 110 and 125 gr loads to shoot and figure they may be a better option and the adj sights may be a good thing for carry around the farm. My wife has a 36 she carries quite a bit and a Kimber micro 9 and she prefers the 36. Will post a pic of the darn thing later. We're getting a bit of snow ..supposed to get an other foot
THE PILGRIM
Member
Good move!
Not likely you will regret buying it,
Very few folks do.
Not likely you will regret buying it,
Very few folks do.
Kernel Crittenden
US Veteran, Absent Comrade
Wise choice. With a little practice that coyote at 35 yards will be in danger of becoming a pelt on your wall.
I just had to buy the gun.
Where have I heard this before? Glad it's not just me! Frankly, that's the best possible reason.
We're getting a bit of snow ..supposed to get an other foot
Snow? Been over 60 degrees every afternoon this week. Has been no rain in LV for over 100 days.
Kaaskop49
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OttoLoader
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60-14 critical defense 125 gr. Low flash 1200 ft/sec 400 ft-lb.
Shoots fine. Use proper grip technique keep barrel aligned with wrist and elbow then no problem with aim and recoil.
Shoots fine. Use proper grip technique keep barrel aligned with wrist and elbow then no problem with aim and recoil.
Finally home to stay for a while...least till tomorrow. Not a bad looking revolver. I like shooting 38/357s for critters. Rabbits were taking over here in 2016 and I shot 40 with an ol first year Highway Patrolman I have. Some were clear out to 80 yds... Pure luck on my part but it does sound good. I still like my old 27-2's...a 5 inch and a 3 1/2...but just too big to carry out on the 4 wheeler. Think I am going to sell that 686. Good shooter but too heavy for a fun gun for me...this 60 is gonna take it's place in my shooters
60 degrees? My daughter came up from Nebraska this AM. Coming through Cheyenne Wy. it was 54 degrees. 20 miles up I25 it was 11 above. Y'all need some serious rain...Light snow here right now and 6 below zero...That's gonna be close to the high tomorrow. Even at that I have to try it out in the morning. I also bought a 29-2 4 inch nickle. Just a shooter cause it had trigger work but the price was right. I have to shoot it too.
Fantastic J-Frame in the 2 or 3" form. I have the 2 inch variety without lock.
I shoot no more than a cylinder or two of 357 magnum every few years and a lot more 38 special and 38+P.
I think it is the best J-frame there is and if I had only one J-Frame it would be that one. But who could have only one J-Frame?
I shoot no more than a cylinder or two of 357 magnum every few years and a lot more 38 special and 38+P.
I think it is the best J-frame there is and if I had only one J-Frame it would be that one. But who could have only one J-Frame?
Dieseltech56
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Well I never knew a 60-4 existed....and now I want one
sawlog
Member
One on gunbroker for 900 bucks!!
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