Anyone here load for the heavy rifles?

[Ruger 13]

I handload for a Ruger #1 in 600 Nitro Express.

 

[505Gibbs]

I've loaded the 458 & the 460.
The 460 with 110g of 4350 & a 500g bullet duplicates the factory trajectory at 100 yds. so I was very satisfied.
I've loaded a 600g Barnes in it - forgot the powder charge but it DEFINITELY gets your attention off hand in the recoil department!
I have the 505 Gibbs but I've stuck with factory ammo bought years ago.
I wasn't quite ready to commit to custom dies at the time.

 

[Nevada Ed]

c/0 post #8
375 with 134 Grs of powder...............

A pound of powder will give 52 loads if you don't spill any !!

A far cry from my 22-250 at ............ 225 loads, with spills.

 

[ruggyh]

.... The big revolvers can do a lot of damage.

There is an aspect of big revolver penetration that I have never heard an adequate explantion of. Frequently, big heavy slugs will penetrate as much or more at lower velocities even though when hard enough Brinnel wise, the same slugs at higher velocities don't deform much and penetrate less. Strange. Don

Let me say the previous reports mentioned in this thread are flawed because of methodology used.

Penetration is not just about mass but equally or more important is the nose profile and lesser degree construction.
Penetration is also a poor measure of terminal performance.

Where penetration is used Comparing bullets based on weight is off little value if the bullet shape is different and construction allows for a different deformations.

(Gun 4 Fun) I believe that the phenomena you are talking about has something to do with the fact that once a bullet reaches certain speeds, it simply can't push whatever medium it is going through aside quik enough to acheive maximum penetration, before running out of steam.

Perception and not fact based.

The surface area of the nose and the profile effect the friction imposed on the bullet. These work to slow the bullet, if there is deformation then the penetration is further impeded by increased friction.

Once the velocity is increased past the bullets construction to with stand deformation penetration is reduced.

This one of the major flaws in tests like those called out in previous test.


I find it interesting there is such a big interest in penetration as a measure of bullet performance, when in fact it is the bullet profile that determines the size of the wound channel along with velocity.

We only require enough penetration to deliver the bullet to the vitals.

Don't get me wrong my preference is to have two holes but it is not a requirement.

On the original topic , I load and use a variety of .458 caliber rifles, 458 SOCOM, 45-70, 458 Lott, 458 Mag, 458 B&M and 458 B&M SS. I only reload one .5 caliber currently the 500 Auto Max.

Although you don't consider the 45-70 a heavy I would say otherwise as would the elephants that have fallen to it.

Bullets are the cheapest part of any hunt, chose a bullet with good terminal performance.

 

[BillBro]

Havent loaded for it yet but definitely intend to, 500 Nitro Express. I dont have powders or enough brass.

 

[Cal44]

I would mention my 375 h&h Winchester, but I won't because it's such a light weight caliber.

And here I thought I was all set if we have an elephant problem here in California.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

I currently load for my WR double in 450 3 1/4 NE, and a couple of heavy mediums.
In 1982 I bought my WR, the next show that dealer had an H&H 4 bore double (paper cartridge/hull, not brass) cased and complete with loading accessories; IN LIKE NEW CONDITION, only $60,000.00! I bought my farm the next year for $33,000.00 (BTW: 4 bore ammo was only $60 a round back then!) 450 3 1/4 NE Kynok was $25/5 for SP; $28/5 for FMJ.

Ivan

 

[Jboutfishn]

No longer load but have all records, 416 Rem Mag, 470 NE.

 

[RussellD]

I dont qualify for large rifle, however I did load .375 H&H on my Dillon 550 while living in Alaska.Have the grizzly bear to prove it...LOL