Anyone see this video of AR "don'ts"?

[JayC_783]

This showed up in my Facebook news feed the other day. I couldn't even make it a few minutes into this video. Ack. If he were treating my rifle like that, he'd have a black eye.

What NOT To Buy In An AR-15

 

[Black_Sheep]

Amateurish review at best, the only point I agree with is the sling loop on the buttstock being worthless.

 

[Warren Sear]

That was pathetic.

What is the deal with these clowns blathering on and on and wasting time with no prepared script? I guess that is considered cool now, but it sure does not impress me.

 

[sgtsandman]

I have the link saved for future review. Bob Owens put up the link in one of his articles, so it peaked my interest. Based on what has been posted here so far, it sounds like it may be a waste of time but I'll let you know when I get a chance to watch it.

 

[Bozz10mm]

Not impressed with that guy at all. Why didn't he just say it...get a Colt, LOL.

 

[scooter123]

Really LOVE the Tactical Sunglasses (sarcasm FULL ON).

Hey, it's a 549.95 M&P Sport. How's about you try and find a ready made AR15 at that price with a forward assist, dust cover, and rear sight? Bet you'll be looking at a USED ar15, not a new one. If you don't want those costs cut then step up with another 150 bucks or so for the M&P Sport II.

As for the castle nut on the buffer tube not being staked, I consider that a POSITIVE. Because if for some reason I want to change the buffer tube or install a plate with a sling standoff I do NOT want to have to struggle with a staked castle nut. Honestly, it takes me less than 5 seconds to check if my castle nut is still tight and on my 300 Blackout build in over 200 rounds downrange it still hasn't shot loose.

BTW, don't own and M&P, I've built all my AR's from ground up. However, at the price the Sport sells for I've been tempted on more than one occasion. Especially considering that my Precision 20 inch AR with it's Gibbz Arms Side Charging Upper set me back nearly 500 for just the barrel and that side charging upper that works so well from a rest with a scope mounted also doesn't have a dust cover or forward assist. BTW, it will shoot under 3/10 MOA so that pricey barrel was worth the money.

 

[KLiK]

Guess I should of thrown my upper away a few thousand rounds ago.

 

[F75gunslinger]

I agree, amateur review at best. I prefer the castle nut NOT be staked, as at some time perhaps I want to CHANGE the stock ? Why is it hard to make sure it's tight ? OK, so the pins are a tight fit. Many people will buy the gun, and clean it like any other rifle, through the muzzle. If the pins were falling out he'd bitch about that. A forward assist ? Really ? Most people don't need one, will never have the use for one or know how to use it properly. No backup iron sight..there are so many on the market now, and how many times do I see " For sale, takeoffs from my new "ZYZ" rifle , never been used. " because someone bought the gun and then started buying the parts they like for it ? And of course a dust cover. How many "professional " uppers now don't have them because some folks just don't like them. Seems to me that this guy wants to compare what is basically a budget AR with his own builds ( or the way he handles that gun, someone builds them for him ) without going into the detail that most high end barrels cost most of what the M&P15 costs.Same with most high end uppers and lowers. And while on the subject of how he treats that gun, who the hell does he think he is anyway ?? If I let a knowledgeable friend use ANY gun or have access to it to sight it in and he treated it that way , I doubt very highly that I'd be his friend anymore. He tosses that thing on the table, bounces it off the ammo can two or three times for good measure and then to top it all off, uses a MAGAZINE as a tool to tap the pin in ? One that he's painted bright yellow, which is sure to not only mar the surface but get that bright yellow paint transferred onto my new rifle ? I'd be pissed.

 

[Arik]

Don't see where the rifle was being treated bad.

Agree with some of the stuff. Yes I want the Castle nut stacked. IF I ever wanted to change the stock the buffer tube still stays on. I don't want to have to check every so often and I don't see why I shoild. That's like saying S&W should not tighten screws on the revolver side plates cause I can just check them every so often. No! Barrel profile. ...eh....I'm more interested in its material quality than the profile. Yes I do want the forward assist. It's there for a reason. Even if I never ever ever have to use it it doesn't get in the, it's not something extra that needs attention or maintenance. And I agree about the sights. I shouldn't have to go an buy one or a set. I'm not into adding parts after purchase. I want the rifle to come out of the box ready. It's the same with any other gun. If I find a gun with a good price but it doesn't have the sights I want or say an ambi safety (HiPower/1911) I just don't buy it. I don't want to source parts, change things, buy a sight pusher, change sight, resign the gun. No....not for me. Having said that I realize it's a $500 gun and was built with that in mind. People who feel they're getting a great deal by saving $50 that's fine. My rifle may never see combat but I want it to be of that quality.

 

[SCBoy]

What a yo-yo!

 

[cyphertext]

Like everyone has said, it is a Sport... Should not be surprised that it doesn't have a forward assist or a ejection port cover, since it is 2015 and the Sport has come that way since 2011. If you want those features, buy a different rifle.

No rear sight? My castle nut was staked too.

Rear sling attachment... "We don't do this anymore"... I'm not part of that we. I still use a Garand style sling.

I'll give him that the rear pin was tight. Run a couple hundred rounds through and get back to me. If it is still tight like that, send it back to Smith.

Magazine catch works... I'm not aware of a hard and fast rule that says that the catch has to be screwed on to a certain depth. A catch that holds the magazine in place, and allows the magazine to drop free upon release is the goal. Am I wrong on this?

Not even going to start on his idea of throwing the gun away after 1000 rounds.

 

[Kadonny]

Don't see where the rifle was being treated bad.

Really? If it was his own rifle and he wanted to treat it that way, fine. But he openly admits he is zeroing it for someone else (problem there, but I digress). Had he done that to my rifle, I'd smack him silly. From initial placing (banging) it down onto the ammo can, to the throwing it down on the table multiple times to the ultimate banging the takedown pin and lower with a metal magazine. Disgrace.

How many times do we have to go over this whole FA and dust cover thing...it upsets him so much that he has to curse and turn the camera off over it.....slight overraction. Maybe no FA and dust cover is killing kittens or something we are not aware of.

Regarding the staking, I actually agree with this. But how hard is it to stake the castle nut? 5 minute job if you want to do it yourself if it's not staked (mine came staked from the factory)? Sling points? People like their sling points at different locations, so S&W should automtically assume people want it on the end plate? By the way, happens I do like it there. The current sling loops I could care less about.

It seems like he harps on small stuff, but glosses over all the great stuff S&W puts on the Sport....like milspec internals etc. Oh well, another guy with another opinion....we all know the saying on that.

Last thing, my Sport came with the folding rear MBUS, so what's his point there?

 

[cyphertext]

Agree with some of the stuff.

Arik, in "late 2015, early 2016" are you surprised that the Sport does not have forward assist or dust cover? That is about the only thing he got right about the rifle.

My Sport had sights right out of the box, fixed front and rear folding MBUS (which I changed). My castle nut is staked.

 

[Arik]

Really? If it was his own rifle and he wanted to treat it that way, fine. But he openly admits he is zeroing it for someone else (problem there, but I digress). Had he done that to my rifle, I'd smack him silly. From initial placing (banging) it down onto the ammo can, to the throwing it down on the table multiple times to the ultimate banging the takedown pin and lower with a metal magazine. Disgrace.

Hopefully I can explain this so it makes sense. It's a gun...a tool. It wasn't dropped from a building, it just wasn't put down like a faberege egg. If the the firearm has to be treated with gloves for fear of breaking it has no place being a firearm. A few scratches are irrelevant. They neither effect function or reliability. It's not like he was using it as a speer or swinging it at a baseball game.

I always find it interesting when people buy a firearm and treat it like some fragile precious object

 

[Arik]

Arik, in "late 2015, early 2016" are you surprised that the Sport does not have forward assist or dust cover? That is about the only thing he got right about the rifle.

My Sport had sights right out of the box, fixed front and rear folding MBUS (which I changed). My castle nut is staked.

No, I know it doesn't have it. I just don't see how much that saves.

I'm not sure if he was talking about the lack of sights in ARs in general or just the M&P but there are ARs that come completely without sights

 

[Plazzman]

Is this guy for real. The one point that he makes that is stupid to me is the M4 cut-out remark, to me that is is a attachment point for a M203 grenade launcher which I assume none of us have and it is unnecessary to even have. Maybe some like it because it looks cool are that is the original look of the Vietnam era AR, I like it not being there for the simple reason that there is more support to the barrel. If S&W went for that so be it, their call not his!

 

[jkasch]

Is this guy for real.

Well, since every other review of the Sport (that I have seen) has been overwhelmingly positive, it implies this guy is either the smartest or stupidest AR reviewer out there. Take your pick.

 

[Stranglehold]

Ehh...cut him some slack. I think he must be "Tex" Grebner's brother.

Roe

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Other than out-of-the-box issues, I've not heard many complaints from Sport owners over the past few years.

I'm surprised the guy didn't panic when he removed the handguard and didn't see a heat shield. Notice he didn't mention it which is actually something worthy of noting compared to his other remarks.

Why would anyone think they needed to make a video review to point out there is no forward assist or dust cover? Has anyone not known this when they purchased a Sport? Got the Sport home and started looking in the box for the forward assist... where did it go?

Boys, the Sport is what it is. And I think what it is is an excellent rifle for those looking for that particular configuration.

 

[F75gunslinger]

Don't see where the rifle was being treated bad.

Agree with some of the stuff. Yes I want the Castle nut stacked. IF I ever wanted to change the stock the buffer tube still stays on. I don't want to have to check every so often and I don't see why I shoild. That's like saying S&W should not tighten screws on the revolver side plates cause I can just check them every so often. No! Barrel profile. ...eh....I'm more interested in its material quality than the profile. Yes I do want the forward assist. It's there for a reason. Even if I never ever ever have to use it it doesn't get in the, it's not something extra that needs attention or maintenance. And I agree about the sights. I shouldn't have to go an buy one or a set. I'm not into adding parts after purchase. I want the rifle to come out of the box ready. It's the same with any other gun. If I find a gun with a good price but it doesn't have the sights I want or say an ambi safety (HiPower/1911) I just don't buy it. I don't want to source parts, change things, buy a sight pusher, change sight, resign the gun. No....not for me. Having said that I realize it's a $500 gun and was built with that in mind. People who feel they're getting a great deal by saving $50 that's fine. My rifle may never see combat but I want it to be of that quality.

So bouncing it off the table and banging it against the ammo can multiple times wasn't treating it bad ? For a gun that isn't even his ? And you can't really compare changing a sight on an AR platform to changing a sight on a semiauto. Most sights for an AR take a hex key to change, and less than a minute. Most of us have a set of hex keys in our toolbox, considering how many things use them.

As far as people treating a gun like it's precious...I treat ANYTHING I buy as though they are, so I don't need to go buy them again. If I just spent $500 on a gun, I want it to be handled with care..doesn't matter if it's an AR or a 50's K22. Just because you can go get another one doesn't mean that the object in question ( in this case an AR ) isn't valuable. Maybe the guy who bought it is new to guns and it's his first new gun. Maybe he had an unexpected windfall and always wanted an AR. Either way, I feel that this guy wouldn't be allowed within arms length of any of MY guns.